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HALIFAX - More than 2,600 coyotes were killed during the first year of Nova Scotia's bounty hunt on the animals, about 900 more than the year before.

The provincial government introduced the $20-per-pelt bounty to encourage more trappers to hunt the animals, which have been turning up in more populated areas of Nova Scotia in recent years.

The Natural Resources Department says $52,860 was paid out for the 2,643 coyotes that were killed from last October to the end of the hunting season on March 31.

There were 1,736 coyotes killed the year before the bounty was in place.

The province brought in the bounty after a young Toronto woman was attacked and killed by coyotes while hiking in Cape Breton in October 2009.

The government says it will review this year's hunt to determine if the bounty will continue.

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I believe it does crock....

If you look at the bottom right of each post you will see a small green circle with a plus in it....?
I just clicked it on the original post here and it increased to 1....

This is perplexing, on one side, I don't want to feel that we have been denied an opportunity to make our own choice by a bunch of antis who realy never voted against hunting on Sunday, but are truely anti gun and actually voted against any hunting at all. Like Marcus has already stated DNR can already rule out any "you'll shoot my eye out" theory because nobody has got their eye shot out. Unless this whole gammit is postured and they have included the antis to ensure that the vote is no flavored to ensure that the question was satisfied by a vote, but the outcome was predetermined by shear numbers alone. None of that, difficult as it is to concieve, is anywhere near as disappointing as haveing to think that we have been denied by our fellow hunters and outdoorsman. At this time in space, we should all know that the only way ahead is through solidarity. The fight we have to fight, is not with each other, but with those who oppose us and our ability to be free to choose to go afield. If you choose to not go afield, I support your choice, for what ever reason, but ahead of that, I support your ability to have that choice. If you, as a member of the hunting comunity, oppose hunting on Sunday, then I support your choice to not hunt on Sunday. I do not, however, accept your vote against letting the remainder of the hunting community to make their own choice, and therefore, I would have to consider you to be an anti, since you voted with them.  As far as voting against Sunday hunting to support the health of the deer herd, I believe that to be uneducated, unsubstantiated retoric, offered up without any science, to support some ghost story, scare tactic. Point in case, the mainland moose has been protected from any hunting pressure forever, and look how well they have rebounded. On the other extreme, the Highland herd population cannot be controlled. Apples and oranges you say, exactly I say, one has no bearing on the other. The opportunity to hunt on Sunday does not mean we have the right to hunt any species to extinction, nor does it mean we shall no longer be guided by rules and regulations that will continue to be enacted and enforced by those who do have the science to support these decisions. Of course, I'm not realy surprised by some of the members speaking out against Sunday hunting, as they have shown their anti hunter colors in previous posts.O 

So Saturday me and a couple friends decide to go wheeling in the back of quinan on the dirt road towards meat rock, so we went by meat rock made it to the pit thats up there played around there notice there was like a small tree that was like laying down across two rocks the tree was still green so I picked up on it right away didnt make sence so we decide to check it out, it was someone trying to cover their path we drive down as were going we can see a clearing and im think its some ones tree stand , finally we get to the bottom of the ridge and I spot a barrel, I was likre there someones bear sight and were parked there checking it out i look to my left and theres a big doe hanging in the tree about 10 feet from the barrel guts still in it, been there while cause it smelled awful! looked like either she had just gave birth or was about too she had some big nipples... but anyways it was a little freaky to say the least, the was a bunch of empty buckets painted black for growing I would guess but anyways should I report this to dnr? or just leave it be? I cant see why someone would jus hang a deer there and let it rot?

I stumbled across this post the other day and it just makes my blood boil to read all the “BULLS**T “that has been posted here. I can’t hold my anger back any longer and am going to post what really happened.

I am the owner of the bear site in question. I had it registered back in 1999-2000 and am still hunting there today. Yes, I had a small tree covering the 4 wheeler track to my bear site, as I wanted to keep all the “Yahoos and Thieves” out, as we all know that there are plenty of those types around today. About 3-4 days before you Yahoos “discovered” my trail, I had re baited the site with a road kill doe deer, obtained legally from Natural Resources, and I hung the doe up a tree at my site. I had two white buckets at that site, one fastened to the base of the same tree as the doe, and that bucket had cooking oil in it. The other white bucket had some food scraps in it, and I just set it by the tree. The black bucket with holes in it to let rain out, is one that I usually put some fish in and hang it up high to keep small animals and out. It is black so it won’t be too conspicuous. There is also a 45 gallon steel barrel chained to a tree, and that barrel has a 8 inch hole cut into it for the bears to get at the bait, it stands out like a sore thumb. My tree stand with ladder and roof overlooking the whole set up stands out quite well too. Those numerous black lumpy things scattered around on the ground, “Hawkeye”, are called Bear scat.
Now, after you Yahoo 4 wheeler cowboys find my path, you sashay right down to my site, not caring if you stink up the site with human and gasoline odors. You dismount, from your critters, and then mosey all around through my bear site. You look around and take everything you see into deep consideration, Lets see boys, theres a tree stand, a ladder, a 45 gallon bait barrel, 3 empty bait buckets, Heavens sake boys one bucket is even black with holes in it, a dead deer for bait and bear poop all around. “YEP SHE`S A GROW OP SITE BOYS, AINT NO DOUBT ABOUT IT”. An extraordinary conclusion “Sherlock”, an outstanding piece of detective work, “ABSOLUTLY BRILLIANT”. Then you mount your trusty steeds, and roar off in a cloud of dust, back to Dodge, wondering whether or not to turn me in to Marshall Dillon
Now let us get to the good part. You went into great detail in your post, about what you saw. But it is AMAZING, that, although you could see big nipples on a dead deer, you never once mentioned seeing a “TRAIL CAMERA”. You know the one. The TRAIL CAMERA THAT YOU GUY`S TOOK WITH YOU WHEN YOU LEFT. You have got some kind of Gall, to steal my trail camera and then make this post.
Imagine my surprise when I later returned at a later date, with more bait, to find my Trail Camera stolen. I was definitely not impressed. Sort of spoiled my faith in humanity, you might say. So I immediately reported the THEFT to DNR since it happened on Crown Land. The very professional ranger that I dealt with, put 2 and 2 together from other information that he had, and got my camera returned from you guys, under a “no questions asked” deal. At least I got my camera back, but unfortunately you got lucky and avoided criminal charges. But I bet it sure was embarrassing to have to hand over the camera,. Wish I could have seen that. LOL
“OH” By the way. I have some nice pictures of you guys messing around my site. Really like the one where one of you has a leak beside my bear bait. Thanks for that. I will let you know if it draws them in. Maybe if I see you around my site again I would be able to show you the pictures, or maybe I could just post the pictures on the site here when I get home. Yes, there has been some “WEIRD ****” going on in Quinan, been a lot of camp break-ins too. My friends and I will be keeping and eye out for you cowboys, maybe our trails will cross in the great outdoors, and we can have a hands on experience while discussing this a little further. Till we meet again, Happy Trails, “Partn`ers”

 

I don't disagree but I think th effect sunday hunting will have on this ( growing our hunter number) is so minimal that it won't be a factor there for the argument isn't valid.

 Hi Scott, I respectfully disagree with you on this statement.  Your kids and my kids both go to school and I'm sure are involved in other pass times.  Basically that gives kids one day a week to participate in their passtimes like hunting.  Speaking from my experience as a father and avid hunter, my son and all his friends would have had twice as many opportunities to get out hunting if Sunday was available, thus twice the chance of developing the interest in hunting.

 

I agree with the allowing younger hunters, but I think many young hunters do get to tag along when they are younger.  They might not get to pull the trigger, but they can certainly get to experience all the other positive aspects of hunting.  My son  followed in my boot tracks as soon as he could walk.  First day of deer season he always fell ill and had to take the day off school....somehow the cool fresh air always made him better.  He would have had twice the chance to hunt, even if he could have hunted when he was twelve, if he had the opportunity to hunt on Sundays.  Allow younger hunters...yep, most of us will agree to that one, but ask those younger hunters if they want to go out on Sunday and I'll bet they'll say yes (with the exception of TS and BackCountries kids and grand kids of course).

 

My niece moved from Nova Scotia to Alberta about 10 years ago.  When she arrived there she suddenly had Sundays availble to hunt.  When she heard we Nova Scotian's might have a chance to hunt on Sundays she was so excited that we might actually get another full day to enjoy this outdoor interest with the rest of our families, that she made a great FaceBook post about all the benefits she and her family have realized from it.  How can it be so accepted and enjoyed in other provinces, but not here? 

 

As has already been pointed out by others, there are lots of ways to manage populations.  Seasons, bag limits, weapons, etc.  In my mind, that other weekend day gives flexibility to many folks that don't currently have a lot of flexibility and options. 

 

This has been an interesting thread.  It really gives a person a view of why things are so slow to move ahead in Nova Scotia.  Interesting, very interesting!

 

 

 

     

Im starting to get a real intolerance for all the keyboard DNR COs on here, a person tries to make a post and 80% of the time they are cut off with some arm chair game warden being critical of their post or questioning the legality of something, for example a post about having some camp meals and last year's moose meat veing used for tacos at camp..someone had to ruin a fun and good topic with a stupid post about a meat permit, or the guy who was chewing about a triggerlock walking out...give me a break, just let people tell their damn stories and make their posts without criticizing everything someone says....i know of members of this site who are illegal hunters...i don't start crapping on them, just let ppl post without fear of being bombarded with laws and technicalities ffs,im not trying to "troll" im just giving my opinion, i don't agree with the way people are on here at times

No sympathy here... I work in retail and meet people like you all the time. All you have to do is make one little mistake or an oversight and people just can't wait to scream "poor customer service" and use that for leverage to get something for nothing.  So they made a mistake and you saw an opportunity, got on the phone to see what you could get for nothing...cause I mean really how were you inconvenianced' you had one mag that you could use while waiting for the other 3 to arrive, they were just late, its not a life or death situation here, just a couple of mags. Really there is no inconvenience at all. So the guy offers you 10% and a tee shirt, which is pretty darn reasonable, you accept the offer and then you decide "nope I want more" so you called back and said give me a free mag,(25% discount, which is a pretty big discount) chased the issue through a number of people, annoying them to no end and taking them away from servicing good customers and because you didn't get enough free stuff you were crying poor customer service. 

I think the 10% was reasonable,they offered, you accepted and then you tried to get 25%, they wouldn't give it to you and they are the problem?  You are the problem my friend, not the retailer. You got your mags, you got them for less than you expected to pay and you got a free toque to boot. sounds like you made out pretty well.

But you're upset because they didn't give in to your unreasonable request for a 25% discount cause they made a mailing error. I can guarantee they lost money on this deal with all the man hours involved, 2 mailings and the discount, I'm confident they are not upset at all that you won't be back.

I will ask the same question every year this topic comes up......if people are hunting in areas,where they are aware the populations are struggling,why contribute?Why not take a year or two off the pressure?Or possibly hunt in zones where the numbers are decent?I dont get it,many talk about micro managing,being responsible hunters and such....but their still out there hunting areas where the deer numbers are low and they are completely aware of it.Is the sport and the kill more important?cant be to provide meat for the family,cause its cheaper to buy at cosco than to persue a whitetailed deer these days lol.I just dont understand:/

 

I am really getting tired of these types of comments as they do come up quite a bit on here.  Yes it's cheaper to buy meat at Costco if you are a city hunter, ie. you live in the city drive to country to do your hunting, you bait you run cameras etc.  However you do realize there are lots of poorer people in the country with families and they hunt their back 40 for meat they would otherwise not be able to afford, lots of them do their own butchering as well and don't have any fancy camo or other hunting gear so for them it's not cheaper and their only cost is a an old .30/30 or .303 round.

Some questions...(I don't expect any answers...that would certainly be atypical of those involved!!    )...

 

1) Has the NSFAH enlisted specialists in race relations...and more specifically the Indian Act ?

2) Is the NSFAH prepared to take on / participate in any action against the Indian Act in the Supreme Court of Canada ?

3) Who, from the Federation, is actually, physically participating in these discussions with Chief Googoo ?

4) How (Who) is the Federation determining the facets of Chief Googoo's wishes that are to be supported ?

5) Under what authority is the Federation involved ?

 

This is much, MUCH more than simply Highland's moose.

Federal recognition of the Qalipu (Newfoundland Mi'kmaq descendants) is at its heart.

 

So...IF this is trully about moose...in my opinion...

 

People can only control that which is under their immediate control.

The NS Mi'kmaq community needs to get their own house in order before dictating to others that they clean up theirs...ie. institute controls over their band members.

If they aren't prepared / willing / taking actual steps to do that...they aren't sincere...and the NSFAH is simply a political pawn.

If they don't have the authority / means to do that...neither does the NSFAH.

 

The Pandora's Box that we know as the Native hunt in the Highlands was opened and exploited by the Mi'kmaq.

They need to fix what they can fix (which means controlling themselves) first before the hunters of this province give them any support...IMHO.

maybe try starting with simpler things, like getting all the hunters and tribes hunting ethically, (yes i know its not everyone in every band) lets try giving the moose a fighting chance to survive, by this i mean no driving around at night time killing them with lights in there face or standing up in the back of your pickup trucks during the day racing up and down the woods roads shooting them. it was like a highway watching truck loads of natives driving up and down all day long back and forth. i was in zone 4 this year during the first season and it was absolutely disgusting how the moose were being hunted and killed there were more gut piles in the roads than you could imagine, there were 4 killed on saturday and sunday before the season even opened, even a bigger joke that the DNR officers (who were also guides there guiding) joke about how they are being killed saying "about another hour or so night shift should be rolling in" 

I know I will be labeled an anti, but aside from the lost monetary value of a possession I have no issue with a ban on SKS rifles. I have no idea why they are necessary to have, and the bayonet makes them look worse. I get that people like shooting them, they are cheap to buy, and people see this as the thin edge of the wedge, but because I use guns for hunting the loss of the SKS is not meaningful to me. And to be honest I think that is part of the issue. There may may be 2m gun owners, but I wonder how many would actually lament the loss of SKS and other semi-auto rifles that are not made for hunting.

Pile on.

John

It was windy and cold today but I had a good feeling about this evening due to the wind dyeing down.

 

As I was climbing my stand ladder a button buck came out and started eating apples. I was making lots of noise due to just arriving and getting setup with a backpack and a rifle on my back that still needed to be loaded. I was shocked to see that before I was even sitting in the stand I had a deer at the apple pile.

 

I took some photos of him eating apples and posted them on my facebook and I had lots of experienced hunters saying "take him", and "what are you waiting for"... but my ethics told me not to shoot him because in my eyes he was just a fawn... 

 

I said "no" and that I would wait for something with more meat to offer allowing this little guy to grow up to feed a family next year.

It didn't feel right to me but I feel really good about leaving him eat his apples and walk off into the woods with a full belly.

 

No more deer came out today but even if I knew I would not get another buck to shoot at today I would still have made the same decision.

 

I have heard so many stories of first time hunters getting all worked up and shooting the first thing they see but I didn't have that feeling at all. I felt calm and satisfied with just getting to see one eating my apples.

 

I'll wait for the 6 pointer that I have been seeing on my trail cam.

 

 

I'm curious as to what other people's thoughts are and what they would have done. Did I make a good ethical decision or was I a fool to let that meat walk off into the woods?

 

Regardless of what people feel I should have done I only care about how my decision made me feel but it would be interesting to hear the comments.

JJ

The very best advise anyone can give you (I mean this in a positive way totally) is as a new Hunter (you indicated that in another thread) that you read your hunting summary booklet from cover to cover. It is rather informative and will keep you on the straight and narrow regarding what you are allowed to do and what the regs are. I have hunted for decades but read it each and eevry year, cover to cover.

As to your question onlya6pt has answered it.

This is almost hilarious....if it were not so serious

 

1. I thought you had little to poor data in NS but we're back making all kinds of predictions and suggestions without any more  useful data.

2. Your buck age class structure is NOT in poor shape if 25% is over 3.5 years old

3.  Guy - the charts and graphs are not helping anything......I thought when I showed you the Penn state example (a deerherd WAY over CC yet producing just as well as if it were not) would prove that while some of these concepts look good in text books, many times in reality things simply are not this simple nor do they follow these curves as we'd like

4. KPR - I know you are far more intelligent than to suggest APR's are the answer or needed to grow a deer herd.  I'm unsure your ulterior motives behind this, but to cling to APR's as any kind of solution to growing a deer herd is almost absurd.  Penn state wanted APR's for exactly the OPPOSITE reason - to keep yearlings from breeding the does.

 

Lastly, a 25% harvest rate is quite astonishing ....especially if your herd is so dismal.   Either it is not quite as dismal as you suggest (which I doubt) or your hunter pressure is not as low as you suggest (and based on minor fluctuations in the last 10 years, this "fact" I don't think is accurate).  It is quite normal.

 

Simply cut back on doe tags, and with a few good winters we won't be talking about low deer numbers.   

advanced members and staff members on here calling members" hypocrites"..... makes me wonder out loud...what are they on here for if ya dont wish to partake in helpful or at least trying to be helpful discussions to newer members or of ppl who truly wish too find out what are the laws and how they may or may not affect one than whats the point in having a discussion column ie..." whats the definition of trespass"makes me ask myself hey am i trespassing, i think we have all been guilty of trespass at one point or another in our lives ,if ya havent than cheers a job well done, but as far as im concerned the varying opinions that members have so kindly taken there time to look up and post here to either to back up theyre statement or to help advise a certain member should be applauded,not shunned, but remember ppl, ignorance of the law isnt an excuse and penalties or cos usually dont care ,if ur wrong ur wrong,they charge ya ....so a little advice to anyone who doesnt want to forfeit pay or belongings to her majesty the queen and or her minions should either ask a co or lawyer on there own and fully understand said LAWS OR INFRACTIONS WHICH MAY AFFECT YOU,personally im comfortable with my knowledge of the law and how it affects the way i conduct myself, im not saying i do everything legally, and im thinking that most on here are breaking the rules in one way or another no matter how minor or major,in one way or another, myself included,however seeing advance members and staff belittling others is truly immature,ya know who ya are ,no need to point it out ,lol, grow up and either help out on the discussion or as i usually do prefer not too comment just for that reason im not a judge as to who you are and others on here shouldnt be as well, DISGUSTED.... if this was my roadshow id fire the staff mbr even if hes a volunteer or not, unfortunately as a member making a comment id have ta look in the rules lmao... have a nice discussion there ppl,oh and if im wrong i'll apologise not belittle ya.......signed a new member who aint impressed with anyones status on here

Yesterday my 9 year old daughter had it with the rain!!! Out of the blue she made a request that when mom got home from work could her and I go Bear Hunting .... Well I would never say no to a hunting opportunity to take a princess hunting and so began the preparations. I said if she wanted to hunt bear we had to experience everything we got the bait buckets packed up loaded in the truck in the pouring rain with her three year old sister we got soaked!!!
After drying off and a hardy lunch of my best Zoodles and buttered bread we started going through some cloths to keep her warm and dry. Women are a mysterious creature even though we were going bear hunting she still had to have cloths that matched ??? They also need to have a properly placed ponytail so it fits out the back of her camo ball cap... she was disappointed that she only had the rubber boots with pink polka dots that didin't quite match the pattern of being camouflage I assured her that bears like pink polka dots!!! She rolled her eyes at me.... when she was 5 the explanation that bears liked pink polka dots would have been satisfactory inspiring other thoughts that bears may also like pretty butterflies lollypops and rainbows....
Mom arrived home to find two camo clad bear hunters ready to roll!!! After assuring our boss (The Queen) that the princess would be kept safe by "The King" to witch I received the same roll of the eyes as the princess gave me earlier we headed out. I did some quick baiting while she sat in the truck playing with her I-pod.
We did a safety check of our gear and I did another explanation on gun safety were the muzzle points and safe places to be when you are a princess. Then I committed the ultimate fashion offence and draped her outfit in hunter orange
We were sitting comfortably in the blind at 3:30 and she sat perfectly still and very silent on several occasions over the next hour I asked her was she ok, cold, hungry, bored... I was shussshed on each occasion which is strange cause at home she never shuts up....
After an hour and a half she broke Thank God LOL.....and we got to chatting about nothing in particular. Thats when a slug traveling on the window sill took her interest that was when I received my education on slugs she described things like how they move by laying down slime to reduce friction against their bodies allowing them to ``slide`` along much like us when we are skating or sledding Who Knew... I asked where she learned all this stuff and it turns out ``school`` while they learned about invertebrates!!! I guess the do teach them stuff in school because when ever I ask her what she learned in school today at the supper table she always says... ``nothing``
After educating me on invertebrates the topic changed to BOYS and that they are disgusting....wheeew!!! But funny Huh ... she told me stories about the boys in her class giggling like a 9 year old school girl while I thought about how to break it to her that boys are always disgusting but funny at any age....Boys are FUNNY...... so it begins
Before I knew it there was about 10 mins of light left and I decided to take her out to the truck and call it a night while we could still safely see....
We never saw a bear lots of squirrels, bluejays, and a grouse but my night was a complete success!!! I took My Princess hunting and talked with her while enjoying the great outdoors!!! What more could a man ask for....

It's this simple to me....you come knock on my door and ask to set legal traps on the farm, you'll have my complete blessing. You trespass onto the farm and set illegal traps, I'll pick them up everytime. Right or wrong, that's not going to change with me.