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HALIFAX - More than 2,600 coyotes were killed during the first year of Nova Scotia's bounty hunt on the animals, about 900 more than the year before.

The provincial government introduced the $20-per-pelt bounty to encourage more trappers to hunt the animals, which have been turning up in more populated areas of Nova Scotia in recent years.

The Natural Resources Department says $52,860 was paid out for the 2,643 coyotes that were killed from last October to the end of the hunting season on March 31.

There were 1,736 coyotes killed the year before the bounty was in place.

The province brought in the bounty after a young Toronto woman was attacked and killed by coyotes while hiking in Cape Breton in October 2009.

The government says it will review this year's hunt to determine if the bounty will continue.

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I believe it does crock....

If you look at the bottom right of each post you will see a small green circle with a plus in it....?
I just clicked it on the original post here and it increased to 1....

It was in an irrigation ditch between 2 cornfields. And it wasnt completely submerged, but it was secured.

DNR is a waste of time. They didnt do anything about the tresspassing in the last 3 years and they didnt do anything about the guy we caught that stole a trailcam....nor did the rcmp. What would they have done here? yup, yup, yup....nothing. Our laws are for the innocent, not the guilty, so nothing would have come of it. Like I said, if it had been tagged, I would have called the dnr.

I dont need the internet police to tell me that taking the trap was not the right thing to do. I just dont care anymore. If it's yours or anyone you know, just have them contact me. I put the word out with local trappers that I have it and to let anyone looking for it to contact me.

Personally, I'd just like to talk to the guy. Give him his trap back. Highlight a few reglations in the book for him. And let him know he's not welcome back on or around the farm.

This is perplexing, on one side, I don't want to feel that we have been denied an opportunity to make our own choice by a bunch of antis who realy never voted against hunting on Sunday, but are truely anti gun and actually voted against any hunting at all. Like Marcus has already stated DNR can already rule out any "you'll shoot my eye out" theory because nobody has got their eye shot out. Unless this whole gammit is postured and they have included the antis to ensure that the vote is no flavored to ensure that the question was satisfied by a vote, but the outcome was predetermined by shear numbers alone. None of that, difficult as it is to concieve, is anywhere near as disappointing as haveing to think that we have been denied by our fellow hunters and outdoorsman. At this time in space, we should all know that the only way ahead is through solidarity. The fight we have to fight, is not with each other, but with those who oppose us and our ability to be free to choose to go afield. If you choose to not go afield, I support your choice, for what ever reason, but ahead of that, I support your ability to have that choice. If you, as a member of the hunting comunity, oppose hunting on Sunday, then I support your choice to not hunt on Sunday. I do not, however, accept your vote against letting the remainder of the hunting community to make their own choice, and therefore, I would have to consider you to be an anti, since you voted with them.  As far as voting against Sunday hunting to support the health of the deer herd, I believe that to be uneducated, unsubstantiated retoric, offered up without any science, to support some ghost story, scare tactic. Point in case, the mainland moose has been protected from any hunting pressure forever, and look how well they have rebounded. On the other extreme, the Highland herd population cannot be controlled. Apples and oranges you say, exactly I say, one has no bearing on the other. The opportunity to hunt on Sunday does not mean we have the right to hunt any species to extinction, nor does it mean we shall no longer be guided by rules and regulations that will continue to be enacted and enforced by those who do have the science to support these decisions. Of course, I'm not realy surprised by some of the members speaking out against Sunday hunting, as they have shown their anti hunter colors in previous posts.O 

It's this simple to me....you come knock on my door and ask to set legal traps on the farm, you'll have my complete blessing. You trespass onto the farm and set illegal traps, I'll pick them up everytime. Right or wrong, that's not going to change with me.

Ya know...we have a "like" button here.
If you wish to indicate a good post you just have to click on the green # on the bottom right of the post.
Shown here in the yellow circle in CT's post.
Shown in the red circle in Markus's post is what it looks like after you click it and indicate you agree with either the action or just outright "like" the post
Just sayin'

So Saturday me and a couple friends decide to go wheeling in the back of quinan on the dirt road towards meat rock, so we went by meat rock made it to the pit thats up there played around there notice there was like a small tree that was like laying down across two rocks the tree was still green so I picked up on it right away didnt make sence so we decide to check it out, it was someone trying to cover their path we drive down as were going we can see a clearing and im think its some ones tree stand , finally we get to the bottom of the ridge and I spot a barrel, I was likre there someones bear sight and were parked there checking it out i look to my left and theres a big doe hanging in the tree about 10 feet from the barrel guts still in it, been there while cause it smelled awful! looked like either she had just gave birth or was about too she had some big nipples... but anyways it was a little freaky to say the least, the was a bunch of empty buckets painted black for growing I would guess but anyways should I report this to dnr? or just leave it be? I cant see why someone would jus hang a deer there and let it rot?

I stumbled across this post the other day and it just makes my blood boil to read all the “BULLS**T “that has been posted here. I can’t hold my anger back any longer and am going to post what really happened.

I am the owner of the bear site in question. I had it registered back in 1999-2000 and am still hunting there today. Yes, I had a small tree covering the 4 wheeler track to my bear site, as I wanted to keep all the “Yahoos and Thieves” out, as we all know that there are plenty of those types around today. About 3-4 days before you Yahoos “discovered” my trail, I had re baited the site with a road kill doe deer, obtained legally from Natural Resources, and I hung the doe up a tree at my site. I had two white buckets at that site, one fastened to the base of the same tree as the doe, and that bucket had cooking oil in it. The other white bucket had some food scraps in it, and I just set it by the tree. The black bucket with holes in it to let rain out, is one that I usually put some fish in and hang it up high to keep small animals and out. It is black so it won’t be too conspicuous. There is also a 45 gallon steel barrel chained to a tree, and that barrel has a 8 inch hole cut into it for the bears to get at the bait, it stands out like a sore thumb. My tree stand with ladder and roof overlooking the whole set up stands out quite well too. Those numerous black lumpy things scattered around on the ground, “Hawkeye”, are called Bear scat.
Now, after you Yahoo 4 wheeler cowboys find my path, you sashay right down to my site, not caring if you stink up the site with human and gasoline odors. You dismount, from your critters, and then mosey all around through my bear site. You look around and take everything you see into deep consideration, Lets see boys, theres a tree stand, a ladder, a 45 gallon bait barrel, 3 empty bait buckets, Heavens sake boys one bucket is even black with holes in it, a dead deer for bait and bear poop all around. “YEP SHE`S A GROW OP SITE BOYS, AINT NO DOUBT ABOUT IT”. An extraordinary conclusion “Sherlock”, an outstanding piece of detective work, “ABSOLUTLY BRILLIANT”. Then you mount your trusty steeds, and roar off in a cloud of dust, back to Dodge, wondering whether or not to turn me in to Marshall Dillon
Now let us get to the good part. You went into great detail in your post, about what you saw. But it is AMAZING, that, although you could see big nipples on a dead deer, you never once mentioned seeing a “TRAIL CAMERA”. You know the one. The TRAIL CAMERA THAT YOU GUY`S TOOK WITH YOU WHEN YOU LEFT. You have got some kind of Gall, to steal my trail camera and then make this post.
Imagine my surprise when I later returned at a later date, with more bait, to find my Trail Camera stolen. I was definitely not impressed. Sort of spoiled my faith in humanity, you might say. So I immediately reported the THEFT to DNR since it happened on Crown Land. The very professional ranger that I dealt with, put 2 and 2 together from other information that he had, and got my camera returned from you guys, under a “no questions asked” deal. At least I got my camera back, but unfortunately you got lucky and avoided criminal charges. But I bet it sure was embarrassing to have to hand over the camera,. Wish I could have seen that. LOL
“OH” By the way. I have some nice pictures of you guys messing around my site. Really like the one where one of you has a leak beside my bear bait. Thanks for that. I will let you know if it draws them in. Maybe if I see you around my site again I would be able to show you the pictures, or maybe I could just post the pictures on the site here when I get home. Yes, there has been some “WEIRD ****” going on in Quinan, been a lot of camp break-ins too. My friends and I will be keeping and eye out for you cowboys, maybe our trails will cross in the great outdoors, and we can have a hands on experience while discussing this a little further. Till we meet again, Happy Trails, “Partn`ers”

 

I don't disagree but I think th effect sunday hunting will have on this ( growing our hunter number) is so minimal that it won't be a factor there for the argument isn't valid.

 Hi Scott, I respectfully disagree with you on this statement.  Your kids and my kids both go to school and I'm sure are involved in other pass times.  Basically that gives kids one day a week to participate in their passtimes like hunting.  Speaking from my experience as a father and avid hunter, my son and all his friends would have had twice as many opportunities to get out hunting if Sunday was available, thus twice the chance of developing the interest in hunting.

 

I agree with the allowing younger hunters, but I think many young hunters do get to tag along when they are younger.  They might not get to pull the trigger, but they can certainly get to experience all the other positive aspects of hunting.  My son  followed in my boot tracks as soon as he could walk.  First day of deer season he always fell ill and had to take the day off school....somehow the cool fresh air always made him better.  He would have had twice the chance to hunt, even if he could have hunted when he was twelve, if he had the opportunity to hunt on Sundays.  Allow younger hunters...yep, most of us will agree to that one, but ask those younger hunters if they want to go out on Sunday and I'll bet they'll say yes (with the exception of TS and BackCountries kids and grand kids of course).

 

My niece moved from Nova Scotia to Alberta about 10 years ago.  When she arrived there she suddenly had Sundays availble to hunt.  When she heard we Nova Scotian's might have a chance to hunt on Sundays she was so excited that we might actually get another full day to enjoy this outdoor interest with the rest of our families, that she made a great FaceBook post about all the benefits she and her family have realized from it.  How can it be so accepted and enjoyed in other provinces, but not here? 

 

As has already been pointed out by others, there are lots of ways to manage populations.  Seasons, bag limits, weapons, etc.  In my mind, that other weekend day gives flexibility to many folks that don't currently have a lot of flexibility and options. 

 

This has been an interesting thread.  It really gives a person a view of why things are so slow to move ahead in Nova Scotia.  Interesting, very interesting!

 

 

 

     

Im starting to get a real intolerance for all the keyboard DNR COs on here, a person tries to make a post and 80% of the time they are cut off with some arm chair game warden being critical of their post or questioning the legality of something, for example a post about having some camp meals and last year's moose meat veing used for tacos at camp..someone had to ruin a fun and good topic with a stupid post about a meat permit, or the guy who was chewing about a triggerlock walking out...give me a break, just let people tell their damn stories and make their posts without criticizing everything someone says....i know of members of this site who are illegal hunters...i don't start crapping on them, just let ppl post without fear of being bombarded with laws and technicalities ffs,im not trying to "troll" im just giving my opinion, i don't agree with the way people are on here at times

No sympathy here... I work in retail and meet people like you all the time. All you have to do is make one little mistake or an oversight and people just can't wait to scream "poor customer service" and use that for leverage to get something for nothing.  So they made a mistake and you saw an opportunity, got on the phone to see what you could get for nothing...cause I mean really how were you inconvenianced' you had one mag that you could use while waiting for the other 3 to arrive, they were just late, its not a life or death situation here, just a couple of mags. Really there is no inconvenience at all. So the guy offers you 10% and a tee shirt, which is pretty darn reasonable, you accept the offer and then you decide "nope I want more" so you called back and said give me a free mag,(25% discount, which is a pretty big discount) chased the issue through a number of people, annoying them to no end and taking them away from servicing good customers and because you didn't get enough free stuff you were crying poor customer service. 

I think the 10% was reasonable,they offered, you accepted and then you tried to get 25%, they wouldn't give it to you and they are the problem?  You are the problem my friend, not the retailer. You got your mags, you got them for less than you expected to pay and you got a free toque to boot. sounds like you made out pretty well.

But you're upset because they didn't give in to your unreasonable request for a 25% discount cause they made a mailing error. I can guarantee they lost money on this deal with all the man hours involved, 2 mailings and the discount, I'm confident they are not upset at all that you won't be back.

I “believe” there is more than lead from gut piles poisoning eagles. I am no expert by any means on environmental issues. Nova Scotia has one of the highest rates of “acid rain” in the country. Has something to do with the jet stream. I learned this many years ago in school. I live in Lunenburg co. and there are many deer shot here during the deer season. We also have a crap load of eagles. I’m sure that if an eagle was showing signs of lead poisoning in Lun.co..... it would make the news as well. Why are all these eagles dying in Cape Breton ??? I think there is way more to this story than gut piles “contaminated” with lead. In the valley... chicken farmers feed dozens of eagles with the dead chickens. There is a very high population of eagles there. There are also a lot of deer shot in the valley every fall. Why are we not hearing of eagles dying of lead poisoning there ?? For those of you that think lead bullets are the sole cause of lead poisoning in eagles.... you need to look at the big picture. I’m not saying that this does not happen.... I’m saying, “I believe” they are dying from other causes. “Lead filled gut piles” are a very small piece of the pie.

Sorry nomad, but neither the moose nor the land give a hoot about politics. The politics, jealousies, prejudices and anger this cull generates are the feelings of we humans alone. ...

 

...and so is the want to play / be God. (that's directed at Parks Canada...not you, ALW )

The moose isn't an ecological problem...the park is the problem.

The moose (not necessarily this sub-species) has been here for a lot longer than people...and people have hunted them since the dawn of time. The moose are, simply, a re-introduction.

 

If nothing else, the park is clear example of how important hunting and hunters are to the ecology.

Take us out of the equation, and things'll get out of hand...quick!

Resolving one problem by creating another?...is putting a band-aid on a severed leg. It only looks good for a short period of time.

 

Shut the park down mid-September...make it its own 'Zone'...and allow everyone to hunt...and the 'problem' goes away...and the moose gets to live another day...

 

Unfortunately, political correctness will never allow that to happen.

Definition of 'political correctness'??...Wrongness justified.

 

IMHO

As long as there is a lack of a level playing field, and common sense for that matter, the points I was trying to make will fall on deaf ears.

Oh, and Straight and True-

"The Holier than thou, never do or did anything wrong, perfect ethical sportsman who only shoot perfect shots (Of course only after researching and testing the calibers required for instant kills on the game they are pursing), with no chance of missing, (after they have made sure there is nothing behind them for a least a mile)... and only harvest game in the deepest darkest reaches of the province"

I'm sure that was directed at me and my comments.....

I feel sorry for people like you, I honestly and truly do. I'm hunting the way my father did and my grandfather before him did. I learned from them. I got direction from them. I hunt the way my friends hunt also. Where did the hunters in the video learn? Did they not have the proper direction? It's easy to see the ignorance that has been instilled in them. And for you to refer to me a being "Holier Than Thou".....come on.

I've got a book of regulations that I NEED to follow, with uniformed government officials that are more than ready to seize my property at the drop of a hat. If you consider that being "Holier Than Thou", well then I'll accept that.

 

I'd like to clarify that the Province of Nova Scotia does not issue a "Primitive Season Deer Tag" as is being tossed around here. We have an "Archery/MuzzleLoader" tag and a "General Season" tag.

 

For all those many online armchair wildlife biologists and managers and self proclaimed law makers I'd respectfully ask that you keep your personal opinions as just that, YOUR OPINION rather than trying to impose and design new provincial regulation based on your personal beliefs on licensed, legal hunters. Again, get over yourselves and your beliefs that YOU have all the answers, are the ONLY honest, ethical hunter YOU know of, and are somehow entitled to dictate to the rest of us just how its gonna be in YOUR WORLD.

 

I had 2 tags this season, as did many other hunters I know. I filled neither. A few filled both, and many others filled only one or neither. That was my choice, and I do not believe I'm exceptionally unique in that fact. I find it ironic in the extreme that those that are most vocal about opportunities afforded the 'other guy', are generally also those so called sportsmen obsessed with filling their tag at any cost. Which IMO is typically where the rubber meets the road in these complaints... concerns over if they are getting deer, how will I ever get MINE! Petty jealousy and an irrational fear of somebody getting ahead of them at the end of the day.

 

I'd suggest that those that feel inline muzzleloaders should be removed from the early season as being 'too modern', what are your thoughts on limiting archery gear to only recurves and self-bows? As we certainly wouldn't want an unfair advantage offered by wheels, cables, 80%+ let off, overdraws, illuminated peep and pin sights, carbon shafts, releases, and composite limb materials? After all, none of this very 'modern' archery accessories are in any way 'primitive' by any measure.

 

This province seems to have an over abundance of 'sportsmen' that have all the answers, and can point out all the errors they perceive in every aspect of their lives it seems. It must be trying being so perfect folks! 

 

I'll say it again, get over yourselves!   

It was windy and cold today but I had a good feeling about this evening due to the wind dyeing down.

 

As I was climbing my stand ladder a button buck came out and started eating apples. I was making lots of noise due to just arriving and getting setup with a backpack and a rifle on my back that still needed to be loaded. I was shocked to see that before I was even sitting in the stand I had a deer at the apple pile.

 

I took some photos of him eating apples and posted them on my facebook and I had lots of experienced hunters saying "take him", and "what are you waiting for"... but my ethics told me not to shoot him because in my eyes he was just a fawn... 

 

I said "no" and that I would wait for something with more meat to offer allowing this little guy to grow up to feed a family next year.

It didn't feel right to me but I feel really good about leaving him eat his apples and walk off into the woods with a full belly.

 

No more deer came out today but even if I knew I would not get another buck to shoot at today I would still have made the same decision.

 

I have heard so many stories of first time hunters getting all worked up and shooting the first thing they see but I didn't have that feeling at all. I felt calm and satisfied with just getting to see one eating my apples.

 

I'll wait for the 6 pointer that I have been seeing on my trail cam.

 

 

I'm curious as to what other people's thoughts are and what they would have done. Did I make a good ethical decision or was I a fool to let that meat walk off into the woods?

 

Regardless of what people feel I should have done I only care about how my decision made me feel but it would be interesting to hear the comments.

If your NSDNR does not measure fetal data, how in heaven's name can you know your rut is long and drawn out?????   Because someone sees a fawn with spots late in the year means nothing.....happens EVERYWHERE and it's always an anomaly....that one or two deer at the FAR end of the bell curve.   If your whole herd was spotted in December...then you have something to flap about.

 

NB has done this for 15 years in NB right beside you.   300-500 does a year.   Peak breeding in NB runs from end of October into January.  However, even though there are a couple at each extreme....the majority females are bred the last two weeks of November, first week of December.  Bell-shaped curve like most things in nature.

 

To have these early-born fawns you think are going to save your herd, you need to have your females coming into estrus in October...ain't gonna happen this far north.   To discuss this stuff intelligently, you need to know what your talking about and what will and will not work. 

 

307 Win is smack-on!!!  If you want more bucks, you need more deer.   Period.   Where the heck do you think bucks come from????   If you have lots of does and fawns (as some here complain about)...this is GOOD!   This is your future.   This tells you two things - first, there will be lots of deer down the road and 2 - something or someone is impregnating your does!

 

I have just found a file on actual impacts of implementing APR's based on REAL data.  I'll post it this week - I think you will be shocked at what APR's actually cause and do.

This is almost hilarious....if it were not so serious

 

1. I thought you had little to poor data in NS but we're back making all kinds of predictions and suggestions without any more  useful data.

2. Your buck age class structure is NOT in poor shape if 25% is over 3.5 years old

3.  Guy - the charts and graphs are not helping anything......I thought when I showed you the Penn state example (a deerherd WAY over CC yet producing just as well as if it were not) would prove that while some of these concepts look good in text books, many times in reality things simply are not this simple nor do they follow these curves as we'd like

4. KPR - I know you are far more intelligent than to suggest APR's are the answer or needed to grow a deer herd.  I'm unsure your ulterior motives behind this, but to cling to APR's as any kind of solution to growing a deer herd is almost absurd.  Penn state wanted APR's for exactly the OPPOSITE reason - to keep yearlings from breeding the does.

 

Lastly, a 25% harvest rate is quite astonishing ....especially if your herd is so dismal.   Either it is not quite as dismal as you suggest (which I doubt) or your hunter pressure is not as low as you suggest (and based on minor fluctuations in the last 10 years, this "fact" I don't think is accurate).  It is quite normal.

 

Simply cut back on doe tags, and with a few good winters we won't be talking about low deer numbers.   

I often wonder how many eagles die every year after they've been feed up at Sheffield mills....

 

esp......... with all the chemicals, steroids, enzymes, quick grow ingredients and scientifically engineered animal by-products that are forced down the chickens throats to help them lay more eggs and grow 4 times faster than Mother Nature can do it !!

 

Maybe a study should be done to see the adverse effects that this stuff is doing to them ??

Still not really the point here or related to this topic... or a hunting site in general..

Perhaps you should try to save that for another type of forum.

 

Ill assume many along with me would appreciate you either not post or post valid responses to the topic at hand..

Please try to do so in a civil manner.