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“investigation for Global News identifies that PM Justin Trudeau's senior aides were allegedly briefed by CSIS shortly before the October 2019 federal election, that candidate Han Dong, was suspected to be involved in PRC Foreign Interference.
CSIS investigators would later allege that Chinese Canadian seniors and students were bussed into the riding, and students were told they had to vote for a certain candidate to keep their student visas, sources informed Global News. They said Han Dong was the candidate.
National security officials also allege that Han Dong, now a sitting MP re-elected in 2021, is 1 of at least 11 Toronto-area riding candidates supported by Beijing in 2019. These officials said CSIS also believes Dong is a witting affiliate in China’s election interference.
But rather than heeding the alleged CSIS concerns about Dong, the party allowed him to proceed in 2019, and he won the seat.”
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I will say it again, anyone that can try to make a comparison of any previous prime minister to what is leading now our country into a black cesspole, has something really screwed up with there head. With all that's happening its really hard to understand why anyone would support someone that clearly is destroying this country. Just to be clear, Stephen Harper is well respected around the world and asked to speak at many functions. Justin Trudeau is laughed at. Even John Cretien was well respected. No one wants to have any thing to do with Canada as long as Trudeau is PM. Can't see much left with another two years of this.
Harper was great :rolleyes: Lets talk about some mice now shall we
He may have been the worst ... in some people's eyes ... but his crown was handed over to sock boy. Trudeau is now the worst PM in Canadian history, and he's not done yet !! The laughing stock of the political world.
I will say it again, anyone that can try to make a comparison of any previous prime minister to what is leading now our country into a black cesspole, has something really screwed up with there head. With all that's happening its really hard to understand why anyone would support someone that clearly is destroying this country. Just to be clear, Stephen Harper is well respected around the world and asked to speak at many functions. Justin Trudeau is laughed at. Even John Cretien was well respected. No one wants to have any thing to do with Canada as long as Trudeau is PM. Can't see much left with another two years of this.
Trudeau is absolutely destroying this country. I really didn't mind any of the previous Liberal PM's. Trudeau is cancer to Canada. .... and I don't understand how some people can put him on a pedestal and worship him the way they do. Sickening.
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He may have been the worst ... in some people's eyes ... but his crown was handed over to sock boy. Trudeau is now the worst PM in Canadian history, and he's not done yet !! The laughing stock of the political world.
It is based on actual historical performance and data not peoples eyes or what they cannot or will not remember and time will tell what Justin's numbers end up at The fear is there is no better canidates on the horizion just another idiot of a different form
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I will say it again, anyone that can try to make a comparison of any previous prime minister to what is leading now our country into a black cesspole, has something really screwed up with there head. With all that's happening its really hard to understand why anyone would support someone that clearly is destroying this country. Just to be clear, Stephen Harper is well respected around the world and asked to speak at many functions. Justin Trudeau is laughed at. Even John Cretien was well respected. No one wants to have any thing to do with Canada as long as Trudeau is PM. Can't see much left with another two years of this.
NO one is comparing any one Just showing Harper was NO dam good either to those who have NO memories of what he was like and was also No dam good for canada
Not me with the scrwed up head I remember which is the issue with you guys and tell it as it is
It is based on actual historical performance and data not peoples eyes or what they cannot or will not remember and time will tell what Justin's numbers end up at The fear is there is no better canidates on the horizion just another idiot of a different form
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I can tell you right now, Trudeau is now the worst prime minister in Canada's history. Anybody with a set of eyes and a brain can see that. I have asked a few people on here to make up a list of all of Trudeau's accomplishments in 8 years, and lo and behold, no one has produced that list yet. I could come up with quite a list of corruption that Trudeau has swept under the rug. Like the latest on the Chinese election interference. Trudeau knew exactly what he was doing when he picked David Johnson. And like I said before, I have no idea how people keep putting this cancer up on a pedestal.
I can tell you right now, Trudeau is now the worst prime minister in Canada's history. Anybody with a set of eyes and a brain can see that. I have asked a few people on here to make up a list of all of Trudeau's accomplishments in 8 years, and lo and behold, no one has produced that list yet. I could come up with quite a list of corruption that Trudeau has swept under the rug. Like the latest on the Chinese election interference. Trudeau knew exactly what he was doing when he picked David Johnson. And like I said before, I have no idea how people keep putting this cancer up on a pedestal.
Well how do you see it then:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: from your stance and head position Here I will give you his biggest three HE WON the last three federal elections ENOUGH SAID
And last 2 elections had outside interference , so what does that say about him , No matter what spin doctoring one thinks , China Did interfere in Canadian Politics & elections . Only a Liberal will say otber wise .
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Trudeau is absolutely destroying this country. I really didn't mind any of the previous Liberal PM's. Trudeau is cancer to Canada. .... and I don't understand how some people can put him on a pedestal and worship him the way they do. Sickening.
People think I am a conservative. I am actually someone that just wants a party that looks after its people first. I even think Chretien did fine. I really cannot understand anyone posting anything to support Trudeau, to me its mind boggling.
NO one is comparing any one Just showing Harper was NO dam good either to those who have NO memories of what he was like and was also No dam good for canada
Not me with the scrwed up head I remember which is the issue with you guys and tell it as it is
So question, were we better then than now?
If you think about it from the point of view of what Trudeau governments have done that truly have, or will, benefit ordinary Canadians and compare that to many other previous administrations either Lib or Con, to me he comes up short.
The pandemic response was OK but no more or worse than any other group would have done. Even the CPCs would have had to spend like crazy in the situation.
All Governments, like any group, try to control the narrative to get their policies and laws enacted smoothly and cover up their scandals. They are all made up of humans! But, Trudeau and his governments do seem to me to have suffered a string of stupid stuff. And, continue to outright lie to the public about the effectiveness of their gun control agenda.
If you think about it from the point of view of what Trudeau governments have done that truly have, or will, benefit ordinary Canadians and compare that to many other previous administrations either Lib or Con, to me he comes up short.
The pandemic response was OK but no more or worse than any other group would have done. Even the CPCs would have had to spend like crazy in the situation.
All Governments, like any group, try to control the narrative to get their policies and laws enacted smoothly and cover up their scandals. They are all made up of humans! But, Trudeau and his governments do seem to me to have suffered a string of stupid stuff. And, continue to outright lie to the public about the effectiveness of their gun control agenda.
Did we not spend the most of all countries through the pandemic, crippling the next generation with debt and achieved the least. How much of our money is being stolen is what bothers me, there lining there pockets like never before, all the scandals prove this. Its going to be grave for any other party that may take over after this, it will be shocking what's each of us owe. It will be to far gone to fix. We are litterly shutting down Canada's work force the way he is governing. I mentioned in the past my son drives about 2.5 hours a day to work. There has been nothing that Trudeau has done but made it harder for him to work, there is no incentive for him to work, Trudeau has doubled his expenses. I know of families that there kids after Cerb do not want to work because everything is just now to stressfull for them. Many are now collecting a mental health pension of sorts staying home. I kid you not. Who is going to pay for everyone to stay home?
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Canada is number one in household debt in the G7. Woo-hooo .... another first !!!!
Did we not spend the most of all countries through the pandemic, crippling the next generation with debt and achieved the least. How much of our money is being stolen is what bothers me, there lining there pockets like never before, all the scandals prove this. Its going to be grave for any other party that may take over after this, it will be shocking what's each of us owe. It will be to far gone to fix. We are litterly shutting down Canada's work force the way he is governing. I mentioned in the past my son drives about 2.5 hours a day to work. There has been nothing that Trudeau has done but made it harder for him to work, there is no incentive for him to work, Trudeau has doubled his expenses. I know of families that there kids after Cerb do not want to work because everything is just now to stressfull for them. Many are now collecting a mental health pension of sorts staying home. I kid you not. Who is going to pay for everyone to stay home?
I was mostly referring to being OK as far as keeping people safe. In that respect Canada did OK I think.
Spending wise I agree. We spent way too much giving cash to big corporations and not controlling CERB far more closely to name just a couple of areas of waste.
Politicians are only there for a short time and so take a short term view of spending and debt. They make it the next guy's problem as long as they think it makes them look good today.
Canada is number one in household debt in the G7. Woo-hooo .... another first !!!!
Why are you always so negative :LOL: :LOL: Once again did you look into it NO once again to get the full picture not to mention look who did the report Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp.


I agree with these guys 100% and having the largest growth in the G7 is also driving it plus we are far from tanking as some say
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Article fails on household debt to distinguish between good debt and bad debt.

Three-quarters of Canadian household debt is from mortgages this does not present a problem as each of these debtors is on a timeline to eventually pay it off, and each also owns an appreciating asset that will be worth some multiple of the original debt by the time the debt is extinquished. This is 'good' debt.

It follows that one quarter of household debt is consumer debt, including vehicles, credit cards and LOC debt. This is generally 'bad' debt, a result of overspending one's resources, and leads to 'enslavement' of the debtor if not properly managed. It seems Canadians are incapable of properly managing consumer debt as evidenced by the constant mismanagement of credit cards. If you cannot pay your credit card in full, on time, every month, you are mismanaging your debt and you are part of the 'problem'.
People that bought during a frenzied real estate market supported by abnormally low interest rates, are now blaming others for their poor financial decisions?
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Yep. That's me. Mr negative. Good debt and bad debt is like good diarrhea and bad diarrhea. It's still diarrhea and it's still debt. Yes, in a perfect world, Young Folks starting out would plan for things like we are seeing today. Unfortunately that is just not the case in real life. The cost of living has skyrocketed, and their paychecks have not. Most are robbing Peter to pay Paul right now.
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Yep. That's me. Mr negative. Good debt and bad debt is like good diarrhea and bad diarrhea. It's still diarrhea and it's still debt. Yes, in a perfect world, Young Folks starting out would plan for things like we are seeing today. Unfortunately that is just not the case in real life. The cost of living has skyrocketed, and their paychecks have not. Most are robbing Peter to pay Paul right now.
Were you rich growing up or have things handed to you Just wondering
In 1982 I bought my first home and my 5 year mortage was at 19.25% for a 5 year term at 72 grand I was making 24,000 a year in one of the highest paid jobs in the cape for an average joe working underground and it is different today ??? I worked every overtime shift I could get and moonlighted working on cars to make ends meet Just asked the daughter and she is looking at under 5% for a 5 year term and weill have it paid off long before the 20 years it took me to have no mortage and says every year she says with me droppes it by 5 years min she has a plan and should have been a bean counter like Tony the way she handles money sure not like me or the mrs :(

I didnot own new cars ( in fact fixed up junk to drive ) , have expensive things and travel like kids today or have all new furnature as soon as I bought the house or pay anyone to do anything like many do today I remember not having a stove for 6 months and cooking out of a toaster over and BBQ and when we got one it was used that I had to fix yep kids do that today and no flooring all the rooms were just plywood for at least 2 years etc etc Doing the wash at moms :(
You think we didnot rob Peter to pay Paul think again and the big difference today my parents were poor and could not help financially like today and I was out at age 22 on my own not still home at 35 being supported by parents and parents in 2023 help big time getting their kids set up financially On yes there was no RESP waiting for me to pay my university like many kids today and I also had a student load to pay daughter has none thank god
And yes I am glad parents can do that for their kids I said when my daughter was born she would not struggle like I did I will make sure of that and have to the best of my ability

And everyone I knew did the same I was not special but the norm we all struggled but got by some how and there was no government handouts either like today

In one example mine I look at what my daughter makes a year and what she is looking at paying for her first home and she will NOT have the tough road we travelled that is for sure and yes it is all about how they plan and what choices they make Took her three trips to university to find the right job career to live here in comfort

Getting a good education to ensure you get a good job is key today if not be prepared to struggle plain and simple
1 dollar in 1982 is now the same as $3.14 and my daughter this year will make 4 x what I did in 82 so who is? was truly suffering as you say
Guess you had no tough times financially starting out to forget how dam hard we ALL had it in the 80's etc etc
The other thing I am seeing here a lot now is kids taking over their parents homes and building the parents a new retirement smaller home on one level my daughters real estate friend is just starting the foundation on one of those now and she is the third kid to do that in their little circle These kids think out of the box vs complaining and blaming everyone but them selves and take charge make a plan and see it happen They are all doing very well even in a poor area like the cape
But much easier to blame others and ther government of course :rolleyes:
Accept the way things are they are not going to change for the better and make a plan to live comfortably within what he have is thre key to success
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Were you rich growing up or have things handed to you Just wondering
In 1982 I bought my first home and my 5 year mortage was at 19.25% for a 5 year term at 72 grand I was making 24,000 a year in one of the highest paid jobs in the cape working underground and it is different today ??? I worked every overtime shift I could get and moonlighted working on cars to make ends meet Just asked the daughter and she is looking at under 5% for a 5 year term and weill have it paid off long before the 20 years it took me to have no mortage and says every year she says with me droppes it by 5 years min she has a plan and should have been a bean counter like Tony the way she handles money sure not like me or the mrs :(

I didnot own new cars ( in fact fixed up junk to drive ) , have expensive things and travel like kids today or have all new furnature as soon as I bought the house or pay anyone to do anything like many do today I remember not having a stove for 6 months and cooking out of a toaster over and BBQ and when we got one it was used that I had to fix yep kids do that today and no flooring all the rooms were just plywood for at least 2 years etc etc

You think we didnot rob Peter to pay Paul think again and the big difference today my parents were poor and could not help financially like today and I was out at age 22 on my own not still home at 35 being supported by parents and parents in 2023 help big time getting their kids set up financially On yes there was no RESP waiting for me to pay my university like many kids today
And yes I am glad parents can do that for their kids I said when my daughter was born she would not struggle like I did I will make sure of that and have to the best of my ability

And everyone I knew did the same I was not special but the norm we all struggled but got by some how and there was no government handouts either like today

I look at what my daughter makes a year and what she is looking at paying for her first home and she will NOT have the tough road we travelled that is for sure and yes it is all about how they plan and what choices they make Took her three trips to university to find the right job to live here in comfort
Getting a good education to ensure you get a good job is key today if not be prepared to struggle plain and simple
1 dollar in 1982 is now the same as $3.14 and my daughter this year will make 4 x what I did in 82 so who is? was truly suffering as you say
Guess you had no tough times financially starting out to forget how dam hard we ALL had it in the 80's etc etc
The other thing I am seeing here a lot now is kids taking over their parents homes and building the parents a new retirement smaller home on one level my daughters real estate friend is just starting the foundation on one of those now and she is the thiurd to do that in their little circle These kids think out of the box vs complaining and blaming everyone but them selves and are all doing very well even in a poor area like the cape
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So … from what you are saying …. You went through a period of robbing peter to pay Paul, and when I mentioned that very same thing with the young folks today, your response was basically … “they are poor financial planners”. There’s a reason kids are still living with their parents at the age of 35 … they can’t afford to live in this over inflated country anymore. There will soon be whats called “generational mortgages”. It will be an open mortgage where you basically just pay “rent”. You will never own it.… which brings me around to, “you will own nothing and be happy”. The motto of the WEF.
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So … from what you are saying …. You went through a period of robbing peter to pay Paul, and when I mentioned that very same thing with the young folks today, your response was basically … “they are poor financial planners”. There’s a reason kids are still living with their parents at the age of 35 … they can’t afford to live in this over inflated country anymore. There will soon be whats called “generational mortgages”. It will be an open mortgage where you basically just pay “rent”. You will never own it.… which brings me around to, “you will own nothing and be happy”. The motto of the WEF.
That is pure BS and by the way generational mortages have been around in the large cities for 40 years
Like I said you must have come from money since you sure didnot make huge money at the tire place and have no clue what it was or is like to just get by and yes many living home at age 35 have no plan no education and will milk mom and dad for as long as they can They are not home for a short time saving money for a mortage payment that is for sure and HAVE no plan to get a better education that will get them the job they need now to be successful Just whine like you and look for pity Anyone that owns a house knows the robbing peter to pay paul never stops I have a roof and oil tank to do this year so something else is not happening it is called planning and living within my means Yep cannot afford to live but can go to flordia for months on end and carry a 1500 buck cell phone ;)
This is the issue with many 35 year olds today and it is the parents fault In my day this was the norm


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That is pure BS and by the way generational mortages have been around in the large cities for 40 years
Like I said you must have come from money since you sure didnot make huge money at the tire place and have no clue what it was or is like to just get by and yes many living home at age 35 have no plan no education and will milk mom and dad for as long as they can They are not home for a short time saving money for a mortage payment that is for sure and HAVE no plan to get a better education that will get them the job they need now to be successful Just whine like you and look for pity Anyone that owns a house knows the robbing peter to pay paul never stops I have a roof and oil tank to do this year so something else is not happening it is called planning and living within my means Yep cannot afford to live but can go to flordia for months on end and carry a 1500 buck cell phone ;)
This is the issue with many 35 year olds today and it is the parents fault In my day this was the norm
Yup … this is not 1982 anymore. I will agree that kids are coddled more now than they were. Most young people coming out of school and into the working world, cannot find affordable housing. That is probably the number one issue right now. There just is none. Maybe in Cape Breton … but nothing affordable on the South Shore. You just can’t live on a mediocre income any longer. There is a reason food bank usage is at an all time high.

…….. and I never grew up with a silver spoon in my mouth. We were very poor growing up. Always had food and a leaky roof over our head. For a factory worker … I thought the pay was pretty good. Michelin was, and still is, one of the highest paying jobs in the area. A good income, 7 weeks vacation and a fully funded pension plan. No complaints from me.
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