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A teen, not mine, presented this question to me regarding a project that he is doing on Climate Change.
Give it a read and let your fingers do the googling to verify the numbers.
I also have screenshots of his sources as well, though for privacy reasons, I refrained from posting them.
Very interested to hear your feedback.
Note: The 542.6 million tonnes is from all fossil fuels combustion and industrial processes.
Figured I would clarify, as I would not want to misquote this young fella.

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All good points. However, what we get from other countries is not relevant in this project as he is looking to only compare Canada's production vs absorption.
Wouldn't CO2 be the largest portion of what is produced? Or do you believe the other harmful carbon/greenhouse gases would make up the difference of 4.7 times the carbon amount?
The measure to collect the tax is called the CARBON tax.
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Just food for thought.
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I know for many years the rainforests were the big topic as they were credited for removing a lot carbon and producing a substantial amount of oxygen.
That was the selling point regarding their importance.
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Doesn't seem like there is a whole lot to the make up of greenhouse gases.
Carbon Dioxide seems to be the main contributor based on this.

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We seem pretty damn green from where I sit. Doesn't seem like we are contributing at all to the problem, yet the tax will save the world.
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So we should be taxed based on other countries pollution?
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3macs1 said:
We are far from that just under the top 10 worst at number 11 But you sit in the weeds so I understand :p :p why all you see is green
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I may see green but I would wager your view is brown, so pop your head out.
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I haven't had a chance to talk with him about it yet. He has only sent me a few snippets but I haven't got the whole gist of what he is trying to prove or disprove. He is definitely a free thinker, however, if he is looking for a good mark, going against the leftist narrative will not bode well for him. Many kids regurgitate the BS, get the mark and carry on with their own beliefs without losing the ability to think for themselves.
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Buckmark said:
If you believe anything from the UNEP ... I have oceanfront property in Arizona to sell.
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Are you telling me you don't trust the UN?
They shoot as straight as the right dishonourable Trudy!
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3macs1 said:
Yep ask for us to give feedback and we do and then the usual crap starts that the information we provide is BS and not true if it goes against what you want to hear or believe
Next time I will just say yep man that looks great and then you can explain to the kid why he got a D since I am 100% sure his teacher is not right wing or a CONSPIRACIST and maybe even a Liberal :ROFLMAO: and unless school has change you have to provide what they want to hear to get an A
Think of the kid not yourself and your beliefs if you want him to be successful for god sake
I really feel sorry for the kid and the info you will finally give him based on your comments so far sure won't be accurate at this rate or help with his mark but will sure hurt it

I wonder why I even try sometimes with some here ONLY two guys so far even try to help you and comment on the subject with links to support and one gets the usual crap from you Unreal
For once forget about who gave some of the info ME and read it and it will help him
What is wrong with your smart right wing buds they usually have lots of comments and know everything No they are Just like pierre more farts of life all air and no real substance when required to produce important usable data that has an impact to this kid Unfortunately he is not asking how to make a fire with no matches
And on the free thinker there is a line there it is good until it starts to thrive on a denial of reality. Sound familiar and yes I am super cranky this morning as I look out to a heavy white frost AGAIN
Carry on
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First of all YOU made the first comment about me living in the weeds. Secondly, if you read my post you would see that I said that going against the climate change narrative would not bode well for his mark and best to regurgitate the curriculum. I have two exemplary scholars in my household who did just that when needed and swept all the awards and the Governor General award. Then you insert another dig at the Conservatives, then cry victim.
I agree, why do you bother?
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3macs1 said:
But that doesn't matter he said not part of this report ya right
As you say fall out from the stacks here from NS power in the cape has been tracked all down the eastern sea board well into the US
Transported pollution is a HUGE part of the problem
Cheers
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Okay, let me slow it down for you.
Go back to post number 4 and reread what I wrote.
The project only pertains to the pollution produced in Canada.
P-R-O-D-U-C-E-D
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Just throwing it out for discussion as stated earlier.
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3macs1 said:
Did you not see the two laughing faces Oh I guess that should impress me we have three of those useless GG awards one brother one sister and and guess who and my sister has two degrees and her masters but cannot tie her shoes or understand underarm is important :( and I sure would not ask her about climate change But if you have all of that brilliance at your finger tips why even ask us old fools and for god sake talk to the kid first to see what the true scope of this project is and what he is trying to acheive
Cheers
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Good to see it's not just me that you think you're smarter than.
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It's a song by George Strait. First cassette that I bought with my own money when I was young. Purchased it at Zellers on a road trip with my folks.
Keep ASSuming.
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You don't get it if it is written clearly, see post #31.
Now, go get after those donuts!
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The dinosaurs could have been saved had they paid a carbon tax.
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Not as simple as you believe. It would be great if the largest contributors had to pay the highest carbon tax as long as they had to eat that cost, however that extra tax gets passed down to the end user in higher prices.
Another thing to remember, the government has no money of their own. What is given to some, must be taken from someone else.
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3macs1 said:
OMG you cannot be serious. I thought you were an engineer I would expect this from one who drives a train may be but not a peng lets see

Of all the characters propagating space-related scams on the internet, by far the most damaging is Ben Davidson and his channel Suspicious0bservers. Beyond his status as a lawyer-turned-grifter selling apocalypse-flavored pseudoscience for cash, he regularly charges up and mobilizes a cult-like group of drones who are easily swayed by his confident word salads, and take his ramblings as ultimate truth without exercising any independent thought. Despite zero training, Ben and his "observers" consider themselves on the cutting edge of half a dozen fields, which of course culminate in doom coming from the sky in 2046, because science. It is genuinely not much of a stretch to call Ben a cult leader, and cults are bad, so I decided to expose this one top to bottom. From the daily barrage of lies on YouTube to the inner workings of his Kickstarter scams, let's see exactly what Ben is, shall we?

Sorry but want me to go on?? You really believe this guy I don't think so and are playing with me :)
take care
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I am unfamiliar with Ben Davidson, but I am curious where you screengrabbed that speech from.
Definitely not your words!
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TonyM said:
I hear ya! He's a twit for sure.
But, no worse than almost any other politician and many high level business leaders when it comes to his entourage and what seems like unnecessary travel. Some of which is actually justified and some that isn't.
In a way its not different or any worse than all the people driving V8 full size pickups that never haul anything heavier than their own arse and never see a mud puddle, or, the people that drive gas guzzling sports cars, snowmobiles and/or ATVs for fun. Flying for pleasure trips, cruises etcetera, etcetera.
And no I'm not a Liberal supporter! Just pointing out that all the rest of us are just as bad in our own ways. I include myself in this by the way. Flying out west shortly to go on a cruise, have two gas cars, an atv, gas lawnmowers and string strimmers.
I figure F__k it! Trumps' going to burn 're all down starting in early '25 so may as well live it up now.
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Do you think that he will win Tony, or destroy the world if he doesn't?
I don't think that he is that powerful whether he wins or loses.
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