Ok but think about it JUNE !!!! Meat had already started to spoil so how much did spoil in the end!!! Some think they do it just to show us they can and chit like that really makes me wonder.
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I missed the fact that it was June! Bad enough to kill 30 at a time when its cold enough that meat doesn't spoil so fast, downright criminal when you know they probably lost at least half the meat and hides.Ok but think about it JUNE !!!! Meat had already started to spoil so how much did spoil in the end!!! Some think they do it just to show us they can and chit like that really makes me wonder.
DNR is not to blame as in the CO’s ( enforcement ) even if they do issue citations the courts throw them out.Agree but they sure would not be killing 50 if the white man would not be buying it from them or using them to go hunting to get one when they cannot draw a tag
That is a huge part of it yet the same white man is complaining and blaming first nations
Huge fines and a few examples made public is needed This has to be reduced and ideally stopped Not a year goes by I am not offered moose meat or a full moose at peanuts IMO for meat and no dam way will I take even one steak regardless how much I like eating CB moose Real easy to obtain if one has first nations friends in the loop but have to admit not as many sources in the last 5 years since their harvest is way down also A friend who cuts them up for many first nations hunters says down about 75% in the last number of years which should be expected with the condition of the herd now
What really pisses me off is if a average joe knows what is taking place and where to source moose meat WTF is wrong with DNR other than won't touch it with a 10 foot pole so who is the biggest part of the problem. Christ some even list it on kijiji it is reported and what does the DNR do NOTHING.
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Well said Gary, of course natives should not be allowed to hunt Whitetails by treaty rights either!So I gave up long ago being frustrated with how Nova Scotia and the Feds mis-manages the CB moose population. The left wing voices lead by the Feds have taken common sense out of the picture and opened up a culture of apologists.
Why are the natives given the “special or inherent rights” to the CB moose? Logical question I think? Those animals are not native to CB in fact were brought here from Alberta in 1947. Can they honestly say their ancestors hunted moose in CB? Didn’t happen. What if N.S. brought Alberta Elk , Mulies, or Antelope to CB? Non native species - would the natives be given “special inherited rights” for those animals?
Yes, they can make a claim to caribou but they were extirpated in the 1920’s. Will that be the fate of the CB moose?
So to try and get a handle on this now isn't going to happen. Will any govt at any level deal with making any changes to save the moose - common sense has taken a back seat to political correctness run amuck and it’s getting worse. Accountability and consequences for this slaughter isn't something I’ll see so my past frustration has unfortunately turned to reluctant acceptance.
And before anyone thinks to throw the “racist” term at me (an easy and cheap shot to do), I don’t care if you‘re white, black, yellow, red, pink and blue or a member of the “glug-a-mux group from Mars“, if logic and common sense regarding this hunt doesn’t happen then the CB moose will go the way of the Caribou. Natives and non- natives will kill this resource off without impunity.
Yes some white people abuse the system but if they get caught they DO get finedTo be clear, I'm not blaming only First Nations hunters. Us white guys are just as big a problem if not more.
Fines and license suspensions should be so high that no one would be stupid enough to risk it and every case should be made public as you say. Name and shame!
No ???how many make a court to see what happens pretty much ZERODNR is not to blame as in the CO’s ( enforcement ) even if they do issue citations the courts throw them out.
Nor am ITo be clear, I'm not blaming only First Nations hunters. Us white guys are just as big a problem if not more.
Fines and license suspensions should be so high that no one would be stupid enough to risk it and every case should be made public as you say. Name and shame!
IF White man would stop buying the meat there would be a lot less killed 100% first nation sure don't pay money for it Be interesting to know what percentage of what is taken is sold vs food
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The native rights have as per the original treaties has been expanded well beyond the intent of the original participants. At one time a contract of any kind was bound by “ intent” and not by the exact definition of the wording. Do you really think our ancestors who signed these treaties meant our gov would pay for university degrees !!! More like just through to high school graduates. Did the English sign the treaties or was it the French. We defeated the French so anything they agreed to should be null and void!
Now it’s totally political and EVERY politician is scared to death to go against anything the native community wants or does for fear of being labeled racist! Too many tree hugging woosies ,bleeding hearts,etc in this country. Look at the lobster fishery and all the support from white people for the natives, but the whites don’t even known all the facts! Ffs poor natives, yeah right one little band come up with $500 million to buy Clearwater! The joke’s on us tho cause that was our tax dollars!!!
Now it’s totally political and EVERY politician is scared to death to go against anything the native community wants or does for fear of being labeled racist! Too many tree hugging woosies ,bleeding hearts,etc in this country. Look at the lobster fishery and all the support from white people for the natives, but the whites don’t even known all the facts! Ffs poor natives, yeah right one little band come up with $500 million to buy Clearwater! The joke’s on us tho cause that was our tax dollars!!!
No court cases BECAUSE the crown WONT TRY any cases.No ???how many make a court to see what happens pretty much ZERO
So that makes it oK for DNR not to charge How many have they charged almost NONENo court cases BECAUSE the crown WONT TRY any cases.
Been over 10 years since any messages were sent
Charges Under the Wildlife Act Result in Guilty Pleas
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We’re those natives in that article?????
DNR doesn’t make the decision they simply write out the citations the crown prosecutors office decides whether to press the charges or not.
Why bother even giving out citations when you know they won’t be processed
DNR doesn’t make the decision they simply write out the citations the crown prosecutors office decides whether to press the charges or not.
Why bother even giving out citations when you know they won’t be processed
I think it’s time to revisit these treaties and re negotiate them. How long has it been 400-500 yrs ago?????
Feds should renegotiate with the natives and should only include those 100% native blood!!!!
And the gov should negotiate the same as with federal employees, you know we have no money we can’t afford that sorry. Ffs let them go on strike!
Feds should renegotiate with the natives and should only include those 100% native blood!!!!
And the gov should negotiate the same as with federal employees, you know we have no money we can’t afford that sorry. Ffs let them go on strike!
Kind of ironic I think We defeated the natives and the French,then declared our independence from Britain to claim this country as our own. But now the French ( Quebec ) and the natives run the country! Plus everyone still cherishes the King !!!
Society is catering to the extremes in almost every thing possible
Its going to blow up on them when the majority (middle) start screaming for the same treatment as the elite groups.
I believe everyone is to be treated the same under or charter of rights its certainly not happening to the middle class white wo/man
Its going to blow up on them when the majority (middle) start screaming for the same treatment as the elite groups.
I believe everyone is to be treated the same under or charter of rights its certainly not happening to the middle class white wo/man
Every morning it comes over the school PA system that "we are on the unceded land of the MIk'maq people"
I was at a gathering where this statement was spoken by an extremely left thinking caucasian prior to a speech being made. My response was "Give it Back".
I asked the person if they held title to a piece of land, then promptly asked why they didn't return it? Not that easy was the reply to which I responded, sure it is. You can sign that title over to the local band and right your piece of the wrong, today. Until you're willing to do that, you are paying lip service and nothing else, so you may as well not waste your breath until YOU are ready to walk the walk. A dumbfounded look followed but I have never heard that opening line since.
If indeed the person making the statement decided to step up and "right his part of the wrong" then feel free to spout off at will, with a lot more respect earned. Until then, I've got no time for it. I know I've been paying taxes to someone on behalf of the piece I have, so I'd like to know who has been fraudulently stealing my tax money?
I was at a gathering where this statement was spoken by an extremely left thinking caucasian prior to a speech being made. My response was "Give it Back".
I asked the person if they held title to a piece of land, then promptly asked why they didn't return it? Not that easy was the reply to which I responded, sure it is. You can sign that title over to the local band and right your piece of the wrong, today. Until you're willing to do that, you are paying lip service and nothing else, so you may as well not waste your breath until YOU are ready to walk the walk. A dumbfounded look followed but I have never heard that opening line since.
If indeed the person making the statement decided to step up and "right his part of the wrong" then feel free to spout off at will, with a lot more respect earned. Until then, I've got no time for it. I know I've been paying taxes to someone on behalf of the piece I have, so I'd like to know who has been fraudulently stealing my tax money?
Not talking just Natives talking all that are doing this illegally Maybe because that is what you are being paid to do and it is your job and it is NOT their decision not to if they are doing their job properlyWe’re those natives in that article?????
DNR doesn’t make the decision they simply write out the citations the crown prosecutors office decides whether to press the charges or not.
Why bother even giving out citations when you know they won’t be processed
In the beginning yes the natives were the ones abusing the moose, that has changed to now everyone is. I think we have moved on from the native bashing. Non natives and I mean all are as much to blame. When I say all, I mean all non natives in Nova Scotia. Everyone has got involved. Never seen a species hunted this way. Never seen such abuse of lands, land owners, etc. Every year someone gets there panties in a knot on here on poor deer hunting ethics and we discuss these slob hunters. But when it comes with the moose it seems anything goes. There literally being hunted to death. To make matters worse there a big dumb animal that knows no fear and easily taken. As much as people say what should be done, they would go tomorrow if drawn even if knowing the herd was almost extinct. I think everyone should apply and put as much effort in as possible to terminate these pests and move on. 😀
If only the First Nations chiefs would hold their members to the care for the earth they used to espouse. If you want me to believe you have a relationship of respect with the environment, stop showing me the rape of the same environment.
And where does that put the non natives clearing our forests and wildlife habitat?If only the First Nations chiefs would hold their members to the care for the earth they used to espouse. If you want me to believe you have a relationship of respect with the environment, stop showing me the rape of the same environment.
Didn't you hear? Canada signed onto the UNs first nations rights thing. We will eventually be herded into 15 minute cities to be controlled or exterminated.And where does that put the non natives clearing our forests and wildlife habitat?
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