Moose survey results

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superslickie

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

The Cape Breton Moose Survey Results are In!! Please take a look at our summary for more information.

https://novascotia.ca/natr/wildlife/sustainable/pdf/moose-survey-summary.pdf

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Tripple D

· #61 · 28 d ago

TrueGrit said:
Every morning it comes over the school PA system that "we are on the unceded land of the MIk'maq people"
I was at a gathering where this statement was spoken by an extremely left thinking caucasian prior to a speech being made. My response was "Give it Back".
I asked the person if they held title to a piece of land, then promptly asked why they didn't return it? Not that easy was the reply to which I responded, sure it is. You can sign that title over to the local band and right your piece of the wrong, today. Until you're willing to do that, you are paying lip service and nothing else, so you may as well not waste your breath until YOU are ready to walk the walk. A dumbfounded look followed but I have never heard that opening line since.
If indeed the person making the statement decided to step up and "right his part of the wrong" then feel free to spout off at will, with a lot more respect earned. Until then, I've got no time for it. I know I've been paying taxes to someone on behalf of the piece I have, so I'd like to know who has been fraudulently stealing my tax money?

That’s what I tell people when they start on how we stole the poor natives land! Usually tell them to pick a native family and sign over the deed for your property to them. Get some funny dazed looks from them and then they say something stupid.
We WON THE WAR as did almost every other country on this planet so why do we give so much back to those we spdefeated. Do all the other countries give back so much to those they defeated?????? Same goes for Quebec, they get too much from the feds so why did we bother fighting and defeating them ???? Only in Canada eh

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Thunderstick

· #62 · 26 d ago

Just over two weeks left to apply for the extermination folks 😀

3macs1

· #63 · 26 d ago

Thunderstick said:
Just over two weeks left to apply for the extermination folks 😀

Agree with you I want a moose I go back to the rock Stopped the CB dream about 5 years ago now

beaverhunter

· #64 · 26 d ago

3macs1 said:
Agree with you I want a moose I go back to the rock Stopped the CB dream about 5 years ago now

I have a feeling this is your year. You should apply.

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Thunderstick

· #65 · 25 d ago

People should be practicing there call now. Here Moosey, moosey, here moosey moosey.

3macs1

· #66 · 25 d ago

beaverhunter said:
I have a feeling this is your year. You should apply.

Been on many a moose hunt/ camp in Ontario and took three myself home one from there and two on the rock which is enough in my lifetime
Love the meat but not much sport in my 3 case(s) two were over in less than 1 hour and then the work started

but loved being at moose camp in Ontario and sure miss that and the crew
Cheers

3macs1

· #67 · 25 d ago

Thunderstick said:
People should be practicing there call now. Here Moosey, moosey, here moosey moosey.

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superslickie

Discussion Starter · #68 · 25 d ago

Thunderstick said:
People should be practicing there call now. Here Moosey, moosey, here moosey moosey.

That reminds me of my father taking my wife and i gor a drive down bergio Rd in Newfoundland. We drove for hours all because my wife had never seen a live moose, dad was determined she was going to see a moose so we continued to drive.
Finally there was a young bull standing in the ditch in the opposite side of the road, dad pulls a U-turn and parks on the side of the road, the bull 25ft away.
My wife is freaking out as dad says " you're the great white hunter, call that moose" i asked if it was a nf moose or a cb moose, he replied that i was standing in nf so it must be a nf moose.
Im on the drivers side as i get out and close the door keeping the car between the moose and i.
I start with the " here moosey, mousey. Cmon moosey moosey" the bull starts walking directly to me as i repeat my call " here moosey, moosey. Cmon"
It walks right up to the passenger side and looks at my super freaked out wife who only wants to be gone and that was before the moose approached.
Nose print on the window as i get in, dad in his usual hunour daid " i didnt think a cb moose could swim that far. The moose at this point has started across the paved road when dad asks "did you ever see a moose dance?" Just before laying on the horn, the moose tried to run but couldnt get enough traction on the damp pavement and was now "dancing" as it tried to run off.

Thanks for reminding me about that memory, hes been gone far to long.

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WoodsMaster

· #69 · 22 d ago

superslickie said:
That reminds me of my father taking my wife and i gor a drive down bergio Rd in Newfoundland. We drove for hours all because my wife had never seen a live moose, dad was determined she was going to see a moose so we continued to drive.
Finally there was a young bull standing in the ditch in the opposite side of the road, dad pulls a U-turn and parks on the side of the road, the bull 25ft away.
My wife is freaking out as dad says " you're the great white hunter, call that moose" i asked if it was a nf moose or a cb moose, he replied that i was standing in nf so it must be a nf moose.
Im on the drivers side as i get out and close the door keeping the car between the moose and i.
I start with the " here moosey, mousey. Cmon moosey moosey" the bull starts walking directly to me as i repeat my call " here moosey, moosey. Cmon"
It walks right up to the passenger side and looks at my super freaked out wife who only wants to be gone and that was before the moose approached.
Nose print on the window as i get in, dad in his usual hunour daid " i didnt think a cb moose could swim that far. The moose at this point has started across the paved road when dad asks "did you ever see a moose dance?" Just before laying on the horn, the moose tried to run but couldnt get enough traction on the damp pavement and was now "dancing" as it tried to run off.

Thanks for reminding me about that memory, hes been gone far to long.

Tim - The driving for hours part made me laugh. I spent 6 months in 2021 in Corner Brook for work.....Travelled the backcountry with my new local friends. Not one moose was seen the entire 6 months! I laugh everytime someone asks how many moose I saw over there lol

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beaverhunter

· #70 · 22 d ago

3macs1 said:
Been on many a moose hunt/ camp in Ontario and took three myself home one from there and two on the rock which is enough in my lifetime
Love the meat but not much sport in my 3 case(s) two were over in less than 1 hour and then the work started but loved being at moose camp in Ontario and sure miss that and the crew
Cheers

I would have to agree that moose hunting can be a quick hunt on the front end but a long one on the back end.

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Buckmark

· #71 · 22 d ago

We had a house in Hermitage for a number of years, and all the driving we did ... only ever saw one small moose trotting up the shoulder of the road. Seen one caribou ... big bull standing on top of a hill. We thought it was a statue because it was so regal looking. It turned and walked away. Also, saw a sow and 3 cubs cross the road in front of us. Of all the driving we did in Newfoundland, that was the only three animal sightings.

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beaverhunter

· #72 · 22 d ago

Buckmark said:
We had a house in Hermitage for a number of years, and all the driving we did ... only ever saw one small moose trotting up the shoulder of the road. Seen one caribou ... big bull standing on top of a hill. We thought it was a statue because it was so regal looking. It turned and walked away. Also, saw a sow and 3 cubs cross the road in front of us. Of all the driving we did in Newfoundland, that was the only three animal sightings.

I saw a couple moose while driving on the rock, and one time a gigantic black bear. Those bears over there might be some of the biggest around. I know that subspecies of bruin are huge on average. I know the blackies in carolinas are bigger by weight cause they just eat corn and don't hibernate, but damn when you are feeding on moose, caribou, blueberries and bakeapples on the rock you are going to be big.

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Thunderstick

· #73 · 16 d ago

My brother went to school with one of the game wardens in Cape Breton. According to the warden some zones have little, and it would be very difficult if you were drawn for those zones. He thinks less than 2000 moose left, more like around 1500. He says next year he doubts it will be open to non native. Well managed. Everyone is responsible getting to this point.

Moose Magoo

· #74 · 9 d ago

[QUOTE WoodsMaster
Tim - The driving for hours part made me laugh. I spent 6 months in 2021 in Corner Brook for work.....Travelled the backcountry with my new local friends. Not one moose was seen the entire 6 months! I laugh everytime someone asks how many moose I saw over there lol
[/QUOTE]

That’s very believable that you didn’t see any moose. Moose aren’t near as plentiful in NL as they were. Talk to some of the hunters returning on the ferry who either didn’t see a moose or a good shot didn’t present itself. Weather (fog, rain, wind and even hurricanes) can and often limit opportunities. Three years ago I hunted hard and only had one opportunity on the last afternoon. Fortunately it worked out. The first 3 days you couldn’t see any distance so didn’t hunt many hours. The last two years were successful as well, but met other hunters on the ferry who were skunked. My outfitter and his guides work really hard which increases a hunters chance.

But you’re right Woodsmaster, although it’s a great experience don’t expect moose sightings like there used to be. At least that has been my experience. Four more months to go but who’s counting?🤗

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Thunderstick

· #75 · 9 d ago (Edited)

Only a couple days to get your name in to eradicate the moose. With only about1500 believed to be left in the herd, the native and non native hunting , should have that down to 300 or so remaining in the fall. Then things return to normal. DNR believes its that bad this is the last year, so why is there a season happening?.

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beaverhunter

· #76 · 8 d ago

Thunderstick said:
My brother went to school with one of the game wardens in Cape Breton. According to the warden some zones have little, and it would be very difficult if you were drawn for those zones. He thinks less than 2000 moose left, more like around 1500. He says next year he doubts it will be open to non native. Well managed. Everyone is responsible getting to this point.

I said this earlier in this thread and based on what you are saying it's true.

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Some might need to ask is the plan to get numbers so low that it only becomes a native hunt?

If anything the most racist thing anyone can say is that natives know best, or they are natures best manager etc. call BS on that one. Just because you have native blood doesn't make you a supreme all knowing biologist and conservationist.

Some might even prefer every last moose is gone that way the controversy surrounding this whole thing goes away as well, but for sure the ones to blame for that wouldn't be the natives, it would be gov't and the non-native hunt. Then when moose get introduced again it may only be a native only hunt cause they "know best".

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Thunderstick

· #77 · 7 d ago

beaverhunter said:
I said this earlier in this thread and based on what you are saying it's true.

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Some might need to ask is the plan to get numbers so low that it only becomes a native hunt?

If anything the most racist thing anyone can say is that natives know best, or they are natures best manager etc. call BS on that one. Just because you have native blood doesn't make you a supreme all knowing biologist and conservationist.

Some might even prefer every last moose is gone that way the controversy surrounding this whole thing goes away as well, but for sure the ones to blame for that wouldn't be the natives, it would be gov't and the non-native hunt. Then when moose get introduced again it may only be a native only hunt cause they "know best".

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Imagine out of those low numbers how many will be taken before the non native hunt? One might be lucky to have 3-400 left. Like I said one could first blame the natives, then the locals got involved, then all of NS. That is why we are here. All the posts over the years on deer hunting, ethics, etc, gone when it came to getting drawn for a moose. It would be best that it ended. I can think of no animal hunted like this.

beaverhunter

· #78 · 7 d ago

Thunderstick said:
Imagine out of those low numbers how many will be taken before the non native hunt? One might be lucky to have 3-400 left. Like I said one could first blame the natives, then the locals got involved, then all of NS. That is why we are here. All the posts over the years on deer hunting, ethics, etc, gone when it came to getting drawn for a moose. It would be best that it ended. I can think of no animal hunted like this.

From what I hear the Natives start hunting them when they get around to going fishing in the spring. Season is probably on now.

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