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Alex Baldwin being charged with involuntary manslaughter.
Actors are given props all the time to use as directed should they have to check them over
Would someone totally unfamiliar with firearms know the difference in a prop and a real gun.
Would they even have any idea how to check it over or how to determine if it was loaded
Should he be charged or is this just an over zealous prosecutor
Will he get off
 

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ONLY the Armourer is "supposed" to be in charge of ALL guns on any movie set. I've read that In some cases the firearms are real. Blanks are used.

Some how, some one got some live ammo into the pistol in question. Obviously not a prop gun. Actors have to spend time with their "props" to ensure they familiarize themselves with em so there's no fudge ups when the time comes to shoot the scene.
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Sorry my outlook is simple , Real guns are used in movies at times but blanks are put in place , IMHO it is the person handling the prop or gun to ensure it is SAFE to use for the scene being filmed , NO ONE CAN EVER ASSUME any prop gun or firearm used in movies that it safe just because the prop director or who ever passed it over to them says " here ya go , it's ready to use " cannot use the excuse I'm a actor , I'm only this or that . If unsure how to check it properly JUST FREAKING ASK ! Or don't use it at all, not willing to understand how it works then take the time b4 hand to do so , after all it should be part of rehearsals prior to filming that way this very time of thing can't happen .

Should be really investigating deeply how that gun got live ammo in it to begin with , never know maybe it was premeditated and well planned out , then play the stupid card .

sorry but I truly believe someone was disgruntled on set
 

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My understanding is that often the guns are the real thing so that things appear as realistic as possible.

First, I cannot imagine why anyone would have live rounds on set except under strict lock and key with extremely limited access and a triple check procedure for handling of firearms and ammunition. Otherwise someone could get shot by mistake.

So, unless there is damming evidence against Baldwin that the prosecutor has not made public, I cannot see why they have charged him or how they expect to get a conviction. From what little I've read about the case it sounded to me as if the armour/weapons master screwed up so I about half expected that person to be charged.

But there are so many unanswered questions here it is hard to say whether this is an over zealous prosecutor or not. Who actually loaded the pistol? Were only live rounds in the pistol at the time of the shooting or was there only one live round in the full load? What scene that used the pistol was filmed immediately before the accident and did that scene require live rounds? Did the procedure for handling firearms include a handover of the weapon which included the armourer showing the actor either live rounds or clearly marked blank rounds? Had there been any incidents of safety procedures being ignored on that set or any other sets where individuals involved had worked? Was Baldwin being an ass when he pointed the gun at someone and fired it or was that act simply part of the pre-filming discussion going on? On and on...

So my presumption is that the prosecutor knows the definitive answer to those questions and more. But, at the same time, if the guy or gal is ambitious they might just be trying to make a name for themselves.
 

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After reading this news release I think all three will be charged based on the neglect for firearm safety.
 

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After reading this news release I think all three will be charged based on the neglect for firearm safety.
I read an article on this mess last night after posting above here. I agree with you, the charges are based on neglect for firearm safety. When you think about it, who in their right mind handles a gun without personally verifying the safety status of any firearm, let alone one you know you will be pointing at another person or animal! If Baldwin did not personally verify the pistol when it was handed to him he's guilty of some charge or other.
 

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Fully understand our logic, and say the same thing to my kids (since they were 5'ish) - all guns (real or unknown to be treated to be treated as if they are loaded and can hurt/kill someone....PERIOD).

RE: Baldwin, agree for someone who went through a firearms training course, like here in Canada, if they did. Methinks: 1) he's an "actor" so was there any training or is everything in the world of pretend?, and 2) it's the U.S. of A. so back to training? IMO, the armorer is really the one at fault, but I'm not a U.S. lawyer.
 

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It will be interesting to see how it plays out. My guess is that in the end Mr. Baldwin will not do any time, even if convicted, and that's a long way away yet. In that event, I can see him probably sued for damages and get community service.
 

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There is no mandatory requirement for firearm training required in the US to own and use firearms and only some states require gun purchasers mainly those requesting concealed-carry permits to show proof of formal safety training on how to safely store, use, and maintain weapons.
 

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Yrs back in the 90's I worked two different movie sets as Security , prop guns were both Inert those depended on our Gun laws in Canada at the time , Inert fire arms had certain parts altered to only allow blanks to be fired . Most were actual real firearms for reality of the sequence but still only fired blanks , only time real ammo shots were done was on locked down sets , no body allowed in certain distances and strict access to the set till everything was put back into as it was called " safe operation " . On both movie sets only trained individuals were allowed to handle actual live rounds as per again Canadian laws , both Companies that were filming all had sign in and out sheets for any weapons used on set that included folding knives , ones that fold into the handle to prevent actual stabbing , again a prop but made inert.

Everyone on set was made to inspect any weapon they were to use and declare is was safe to use . One movie I worked on was filmed for almost 8 months off and on.

There was also a lot of Rubber knives and swords on set or for non shooting scenes fully inert firearms that strictly could not fire anything .

All I know from personal experience was everyone was responsible for handing of props that could be dangerous if mis used , No One Was exempt .

Sorry but once again if he failed to inspect that gun he's just as fault as who loaded it ! , no special treatment cause he is a actor or celebrity , full recourse of the law , Someone Died due to neglect sadly .
 

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Yrs back in the 90's I worked two different movie sets as Security , prop guns were both Inert those depended on our Gun laws in Canada at the time , Inert fire arms had certain parts altered to only allow blanks to be fired . Most were actual real firearms for reality of the sequence but still only fired blanks , only time real ammo shots were done was on locked down sets , no body allowed in certain distances and strict access to the set till everything was put back into as it was called " safe operation " . On both movie sets only trained individuals were allowed to handle actual live rounds as per again Canadian laws , both Companies that were filming all had sign in and out sheets for any weapons used on set that included folding knives , ones that fold into the handle to prevent actual stabbing , again a prop but made inert.

Everyone on set was made to inspect any weapon they were to use and declare is was safe to use . One movie I worked on was filmed for almost 8 months off and on.

There was also a lot of Rubber knives and swords on set or for non shooting scenes fully inert firearms that strictly could not fire anything .

All I know from personal experience was everyone was responsible for handing of props that could be dangerous if mis used , No One Was exempt .

Sorry but once again if he failed to inspect that gun he's just as fault as who loaded it ! , no special treatment cause he is a actor or celebrity , full recourse of the law , Someone Died due to neglect sadly .
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