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Stolen car leads to unsafe storage charges

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After an incident involving a stolen vehicle, Yellowknife RCMP have laid unsafe storage charges against a firearms owner.

Police are reminding the public to ensure that firearms in vehicles be stored in a locked container when not in use. One example provided was a gun safe bolted to the vehicle floor or in the trunk. As well, it must be concealed from plain sight so it isn’t easily identifiable as a gun safe.

At home, police recommend keeping firearms in a locked cabinet or safe where easy access isn’t available. The released stated that storing firearms unloaded with trigger locks or cable locks to prevent accidental discharges are extra ways to ensure safety. The safe or cabinet should be bolted securely to prevent theft or tampering.


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After an incident involving a stolen vehicle, Yellowknife RCMP have laid unsafe storage charges against a firearms owner.
The owner of the Firearms was not charged. They located the firearms at another residence and charged that homeowner. Firearms do not need to be locked when they are in your vehicle ... they just need to be in a case.
The owner of the Firearms was not charged. They located the firearms at another residence and charged that homeowner. Firearms do not need to be locked when they are in your vehicle ... they just need to be in a case.
Not that cut and dry any more Suggest you read section 80 of the NS act in some cases they even need a trigger lock now
For purposes of clause 80(4)(a) of the Act, the expression “in a case which is properly fastened” includes a trigger lock which, when attached to a firearm or bow, renders the firearm or bow inoperable.

Subsection 8(5) added: O.I.C. 96-460, N.S. Reg. 109/96; amended: O.I.C. 2010-244, N.S. Reg. 84/2010.
How do you attach a trigger lock to a bow ??? I can "almost" gaurantee, that if your firearm is in a zippered up case, and you are stopped ... it will be deemed secure, as far as RCMP and DNR are concerned.
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How do you attach a trigger lock to a bow ??? I can "almost" gaurantee, that if your firearm is in a zippered up case, and you are stopped ... it will be deemed secure, as far as RCMP and DNR are concerned.
There you go again guessing when the law says differently More rolling of the dice hoping vs following it as written
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Whatever, Joe. I've been stopped two times by DNR while driving. Just routine checks. They asked to see my license and they asked to see my firearm. The case was not locked and there was no trigger lock on it. They were just wanted to know if it was loaded or not. Unless this law changed since last fall, I don't care to hear about your legalities. If it is a law, these DNR officers are not following it. They were very satisfied that my gun was in a case and unloaded. That's all they were concerned about.
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How do you attach a trigger lock to a bow ??? I can "almost" gaurantee, that if your firearm is in a zippered up case, and you are stopped ... it will be deemed secure, as far as RCMP and DNR are concerned.
YUP !! Got stopped in a couple road blocks a few yrs back...RC's and DNR on sight. Checked our gun cases...closed and latched and zippered up. Checked our hunting license and our WRC too. They NEVER asked to see our PALs either, said they were looking for hunting license compliance !!! Not an issue with either.
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Whatever, Joe. I've been stopped two times by DNR while driving. Just routine checks. They asked to see my license and they asked to see my firearm. The case was not locked and there was no trigger lock on it. They were just wanted to know if it was loaded or not. Unless this law changed since last fall, I don't care to hear about your legalities. If it is a law, these DNR officers are not following it. They were very satisfied that my gun was in a case and unloaded. That's all they were concerned about.
Not my laws dude it is how the act is written and all it takes is one that follows it which they all should be and your run of luck is over and like I said it is clear what is legal when sitting in the vehicle and when not and what locking is required for certain types of transportation I always trigger locked when going to the club but never hunting
My legalities priceless but real clear what the options are as written today and they clarify what properly fastened is as I shared but will share again :rolleyes:

(a)in a case which is properly fastened;
(b)completely wrapped in material which is securely tied around the firearm or bow; or
(c)in the locked luggage compartment of a vehicle and the contents of the compartment are not accessible to the occupants of the vehicle from inside the vehicle. R.S., c.504, s.80; 1990, c.50, s.7.

For purposes of clause 80(4)(a) of the Act, the expression “in a case which is properly fastened” includes a trigger lock which, when attached to a firearm or bow, renders the firearm or bow inoperable.
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They changed the "driving" part of the old rules too. NOW, in wildlife habitat, you can drive with your firearm UNCASED during legal hunting hours !
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They changed the "driving" part of the old rules too. NOW, in wildlife habitat, you can drive with your firearm UNCASED during legal hunting hours !
A lot has been changed over the past few years it seems
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Not my laws dude it is how the act is written and all it takes is one that follows it which they all should be and your run of luck is over and like I said it is clear what is legal when sitting in the vehicle and when not and what locking is required for certain types of transportation I always trigger locked when going to the club but never hunting
My legalities priceless but real clear what the options are as written today and they clarify what properly fastened is as I shared but will share again :rolleyes:

(a)in a case which is properly fastened;
(b)completely wrapped in material which is securely tied around the firearm or bow; or
(c)in the locked luggage compartment of a vehicle and the contents of the compartment are not accessible to the occupants of the vehicle from inside the vehicle. R.S., c.504, s.80; 1990, c.50, s.7.

For purposes of clause 80(4)(a) of the Act, the expression “in a case which is properly fastened” includes a trigger lock which, when attached to a firearm or bow, renders the firearm or bow inoperable.
The law states you can only drive 100 KMH on a 100 series highway. THAT IS THE WRITTEN LAW. Does the RCMP care if you‘re driving at 105 ??? 110 ????
I have yet to use a trigger lock on any firearm (long gun), whether going hunting or to the range. What is the difference in having a firearm locked in your vehicle or in your basement behind a locked door ????
As someone who teaches the course here is what we teach
During hunting season you can have your firearms uncased on the seat beside you going to your hunting spot if the ammo is not with it. Unloaded of course and 30min before sunrise or after sunset. Keep in mind if you get home or back to camp after that timeframe it must be in a case before youre legally allowed to bring it in from the vehicle

It must be encased and outta sight and vehicle locked if you leave the vehicle for any reason.

Outside of hunting season it must be encased and outta sight while in transit.
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Hang it in the back window of your truck....perfectly legal under federal law. If you have dumb provincial wildlife laws like NS add a trigger lock to it while it hangs in your back window.
As someone who teaches the course here is what we teach
During hunting season you can have your firearms uncased on the seat beside you going to your hunting spot if the ammo is not with it. Unloaded of course and 30min before sunrise or after sunset. Keep in mind if you get home or back to camp after that timeframe it must be in a case before youre legally allowed to bring it in from the vehicle

It must be encased and outta sight and vehicle locked if you leave the vehicle for any reason.

Outside of hunting season it must be encased and outta sight while in transit.
And just to make sure outside of hunting season if for example I am going to the range , I use the handgun rules as it is not all that inconvenient to just leave the trigger locks on the firearms and remove them on the bench.
And just to make sure outside of hunting season if for example I am going to the range , I use the handgun rules as it is not all that inconvenient to just leave the trigger locks on the firearms and remove them on the bench.
Always did the same for what little extra it took Take care
If we're going with the same rules as the COVID thread, only those who are lawyers specializing in firearms law and servicing law enforcement should be able to comment on this thread...
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As someone who teaches the course here is what we teach
During hunting season you can have your firearms uncased on the seat beside you going to your hunting spot if the ammo is not with it. Unloaded of course and 30min before sunrise or after sunset. Keep in mind if you get home or back to camp after that timeframe it must be in a case before youre legally allowed to bring it in from the vehicle

It must be encased and outta sight and vehicle locked if you leave the vehicle for any reason.

Outside of hunting season it must be encased and outta sight while in transit.
Those are the rules I follow with the exception that I always have the gun in a zippered up case in the trunk or in the back of the SUV out of sight.
I've never bothered with a trigger lock when hunting but have met guys that use one and a case and put it in the trunk.
What i posted was the minimum required for transportation, you can always add a trigger lock to exceed the minimum, but doing less could land you in a heap of trouble
What i posted was the minimum required for transportation, you can always add a trigger lock to exceed the minimum, but doing less could land you in a heap of trouble
I may have missed it Tim but why is none of this covered in the hunting regulations or is it and I missed it IMO there should be a complete section on transport
Also Kevin mentioned this and I believe him but there has been no change that I can see to the wildlife act showing this change so how can it be legal until the act is revised
They changed the "driving" part of the old rules too. NOW, in wildlife habitat, you can drive with your firearm UNCASED during legal hunting hours !
Superslickie said ,”During hunting season you can have your firearms uncased on the seat beside you going to your hunting spot if the ammo is not with it.”
Does this mean you can have ammo in a magazine in your pocket or in the glove box? Or does the ammo have to to be in a lock box or in a place in the vehicle not readily accessible to you?
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