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Any you guys try Fluid Film for undercoating,takes about 4-5 cans about $20.00 a can
No way would 4-5 cans do my truck. Costs me around $170 annually to have my truck sprayed. Would cost a lot more to go with fluid film.
 
Back to the topic at hand, yes I would definitely recommend undercoating.

Bought too many used vehicles over the years that I did not undercoat and at 8 to 10 years the vechicle was worthwile saving mechanically but just nothing around it.

Stupid me for not spending $70 - $100 every early fall.
 
There is a black rubber one and a clear wax like jelly they spray and a third which is a electronic system

I assume it is the clear??
I have no idea. A friend had the electronic system on his and shortly after he bought it he had a "rust streak" somewhere so he had it undercoated. Now keep in mind he also uses a straight edge to pile fire wood and goes around with a block and hammer making sure all the ends are flush. To say he is particular would be the understatement of the year lol.
 
I have no idea. A friend had the electronic system on his and shortly after he bought it he had a "rust streak" somewhere so he had it undercoated. Now keep in mind he also uses a straight edge to pile fire wood and goes around with a block and hammer making sure all the ends are flush. To say he is particular would be the understatement of the year lol.
My experience is limited with the diamond cote to about 5 years

It was used on our new 1986 honda and also our new 89 honda which is the same stuff they use today in the clear wax form

it was not want I wanted but had to use their product at the time

The black rubberized is junk like the old ziebart and I would not put it on any thing

The clear wax like is Ok if they put it on right and the big one if they make you followup and have it touched up every year since many don't but it needs it.

It doesn't creep as well as rust check or krown which was my issue with it. I know they offer a warranty but will they do anything if something happens

As soon as my cars were out of the three year warranty krown went on

All I have heard on the electric one is great for an old car that is stored away but no so good for the salt roads here on cars that drive every day but I have no experience of my own and won't

Cheers
 
Any you guys try Fluid Film for undercoating,takes about 4-5 cans about $20.00 a can
Any substance like this will work to some degree. The question becomes does it work as well as a designed undercoating.product

That I have no idea of

One has to remember back in the day all we used was our old engine oil and thought it was great then when the mines came we got access to rope oil the best of the best undercoating so we thought

Little did we know it is was full of cancer causing substances with coal tar being the worst

I say what ever is working for you cool but it would cost me a ton of cans for my truck to try

Cheers
 
As soon as my aunt (rip Viv) bought her new 1992 Dodge Shadow ( in 91)...I took it to Krown and had the undercoating done. It was maintained every year after that. The car looked like new all the way round ever since !!

Over 20 years later, there was a little bit of clear coat coming off the roof mind you, but it looked as new as it did when she bought it home !

There was never any issues with deteriorating door rubbers..trunk seals, or electrical connections ..EVER !!! In fact the original exhaust was on the car till around 2010, and THEN....all she needed was a muffler and tailpipe !

She passed away in 2013 @ 94 (?) 69,000 kms on it too. Her little Shadow was 22 yrs old then...people were lined up to get their hands on her car.

....actually a couple of people showed up later the same day the coroner took her away <_<
 
I was shopping for a used car last fall and I can share some pictures that tell the story.

Two Toyota Camrys. 2005 with 20,000 more clicks than the 2004 model.

Both were from the Annapolis Valley. Both pictures are looking underneath from below
the rear license plate.

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2004 Camry 170,000 KM:

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2005 Camry 150,000 KM:

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The 2004 had the tell tale rubber stoppers in the door sill where spray is applied to protect the rocker panels. I bought it
even though it is one year older and has more miles.

Rust control works. The biggest trick is to find someone that knows what they are doing.

The guy at Stonach Oil, Kingston, that used to do Krown, did one of my cars years ago. One half of the battery tray was wet,

the other half dry. Inside of body metal in front of the doors towards the engine bay (used to be easy hollow to reach on older cars)

was completely dry. Then I started taking the cars to Krown on Robie St. in Halifax.

For a truck/SUV where you are not as concerned with urban style, Fluid Film is a good material that stays on the underbody. The shop behind Big Stop

at exit 12 on the 101 has Fluid Film. The guy running that place used to work for Mr. Details, which used Rust Check. The key thing to find is

someone that knows how to apply it. Usually if that is their bread and butter, this is going to be something they do well.

I've found most shops that sell tires or do mechanic work and also do rust control don't really care about doing the rust control well. To them it is
just an extra task, like washing your car at a dealership. Their attitude is often: make it drip, give them the sticker and take the money.

Most rust that surprises us develops from the inside out. So it isn't strictly undercoating you want, although the underside is certainly a main target.

With regards to the rubber coming off... I bought the 2004 Camry above and it is fine. There are some types of coatings that will eat away at

the rubber and plastic. Krown having no solvents in the formula helps reduce that possibility.

I've heard no one can guarantee their material has zero effect on rubber. If you have a new car, there is a strategy that can help. Prior to the spray appointment,
get silicone spray and coat your door trim, engine bay trim, etc. made of soft rubber. The idea is if the rubber is already impregnated with silicone it won't have
the ability to absorb the undercoating material that may land on it.
 
Our new 2016 Hyundai has an 8 yr rust free guarantee ! Cost us 800 and change when we bought the car. Time will tell ;) ;)
 
It's hard to be more conclusive than that. Thanks labradort.
Yes a nice comparison and IMO the top one was not even done every year. If any of mine were that dry I would be freaking out :)

I agree finding someone that cares about putting it on a right is huge

My guy many times just hands me the wands pending how busy he is LOL

I am I think the customer from hell. Know exactly how many plugs in my rig and have actually put a shot of clear over them from time to time when I suspect they are not taking them out to prove it.

I also buy two extra cans a year and do touch up myself especially on the rear frame and wheel wells of the Chevs. Doesn't matter how heavy it is applied there the water will wash it off. They are like 10 bucks a can and if I don't use it all spray the snowblowers with it

My dodge truck was so slimy that I would always give the guy working on it a pair of the white tyvek coveralls to put on so he would not destroy his clothes etc

Cheers
 
Our new 2016 Hyundai has an 8 yr rust free guarantee ! Cost us 800 and change when we bought the car. Time will tell ;) ;)
I have no idea how they deal with it today?? I know years ago you would get a hole and they would say it is not covered since it came from the outside in.

WTF it is a hole who knows where it started

Has anyone here had panels replaced free under warranty

Cheers
 
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